DC vacation ideas?

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Suppose - about 4-5 days in DC, want to do it without bothering with a rental car, and still be able to see the monuments and museums.

Any ideas on convenient places to stay? How about convenient and affordable places?

What about getting around? Cabs? Buses? Shuttles?

Thanks.
 
Suggest you look for places to stay in Crystal City (arlington VA) as you can walk to nearby metro and get anywhere you want from there. If you want to do a trip to the Udvar Hazy center at Dulles let me know and I can arrange to pick you up and take you out there. Plenty of cabs in the metro DC area.
 
And take a look at hotels a bit further out that are very near Metro stations. I used to get great deals (FAR cheaper than Crystal City) at the Courtyard Dunn Loring. Some of the hotels further afield will provide a shuttle to the Metro.
 
You can spend of day of that time getting vetted to be able to fly into the FRZ next time! I did that a year and half ago, and have not used it yet, but I will this fall when I into College Park. My son plays DIII football and has a game at Catholic University, which I think is very close to College Park.

Wells
 
Thanks for all the info. I'll have to do some research on the Metro now. Do they have multi-day passes?
 
METRO METRO METRO!!!

We drove last year and stayed with family in MD. Parked at a suburban metro station and walked from the stations. Only destination we drove too was Udvar Hazy
 
PM me (I'm a Northern VA resident and work in DC) and I'll send you my number. You can call anytime for questions.
 
The Metro is the key?

That's what I use when I am there. I buy a paper pass with $10 or $20 on it and just add as necessary.

I usually stay at the Comfort Inn in Arlington because it is close to where I have meetings.

"Washington D.C." and "inexpensive hotel" do not typically go in the same sentence.
 
PM me (I'm a Northern VA resident and work in DC) and I'll send you my number. You can call anytime for questions.

If your coming in summer - stay in the city not the burbs. 4 star hotels can be found for cheap ($99-150) over weekends. Its nice to be able to walk to sites, shops, restaurants, etc. Kimpton Hotels are all awesome. PM if you want a friends and family rate. Stay in Arlington if DC hotels get expensive.

Suggest staying in DuPont Circle or Downtown (near Metro Center). You can get around on metro, bicycles (http://www.capitalbikeshare.com/) are everywhere or cabs anywhere in the city.
 
PM me (I'm a Northern VA resident and work in DC) and I'll send you my number. You can call anytime for questions.

Likewise

If your coming in summer - stay in the city not the burbs. 4 star hotels can be found for cheap ($99-150) over weekends. Its nice to be able to walk to sites, shops, restaurants, etc. Kimpton Hotels are all awesome. PM if you want a friends and family rate. Stay in Arlington if DC hotels get expensive.

Suggest staying in DuPont Circle or Downtown (near Metro Center). You can get around on metro, bicycles (http://www.capitalbikeshare.com/) are everywhere or cabs anywhere in the city.

Kimpton hotels are nice. City vs suburbs really depends on "when". Metro is a must, if you're on the metro lines, city vs burbs is a non issue. Unless you end up staying in a bad neighborhood.
 
Tim, Andrew, Bill: I might take you up on the offers for further info. Timing is still TBD. Both kids are home from college now, but both will be taking some summer courses. We'll have to figure out just when we can make it based on their schedule - might be August.

Last time I was in DC was maybe mid-late '70s. I think the Air and Space museum must have just opened? I do remember going there.

Matt

PS - Tim, I think we actually met for lunch back in KC a year or two ago - BBQ at Oklahoma Joe's (one of the things that should be on everyone's bucket list).
 
I'll add Old Town Alexandria to the list of places to stay and visit. Very walkable, historic, and served by Metro, with a 15 minute trip into the city.
 
I'll add Old Town Alexandria to the list of places to stay and visit. Very walkable, historic, and served by Metro, with a 15 minute trip into the city.

There is a Hampton, a Hilton, a Wyndham timeshare and a Kimpton within walking distance of the King Street metro. Neither of them is 'cheap' but hotel rates can be quite variable. If one can bear sitting through 90min timeshare sales pitch, good packages can be had at the Wyndham.
 
I would highly recommend the river cruise from DC to Mount Vernon. My wife and I took that trip and had a great time. A slow cruise down the Potomac with good narration of the points of interest, plenty of time to tour the house and grounds and a nice trip back. We stayed near city center and the Metro dropped us a few blocks from the dock where we caught the tour. Great time.
 
If you stay in Maryland you can be further out than the DC beltway as long as you're close to a MARC rail station which will take you to Union Station where you can pick up the Metro.

However, MARC doesn't run much of a weekend schedule (possibly none at all, I forget offhand) - so its really only useful for weekday transportation.
 
We were very pleased with our choice of the River Inn ( http://www.theriverinn.com/ ) as a base for our family visit to DC last year. Couple of blocks from the Foggy Bottom Metro stop, lots of good eats in easy walking distance, suite was very large and well-appointed. Especially loved having a kitchen.
 
My brother visited there recently. Things he said worth doing are:

Night time tour of the monuments. He had a great guide, learned a lot, and the views were really good.

Segway tour: He didn't do this because of 3 small kids in tow, but wanted to. He asked about it and had gotten some positive responses.

Smithsonian: He went to the Air and Space (both of them) and barely scratched the other galleries. He was blown away with the depth of the exhibits.

Food: He did a little digging on sites like Diners, Drive-ins, and Dives and local food bloggers. He found many out of the tourist zone eateries that had very high taste/value to price ratios.
 
These days, if the options are air and space downtown vs. Udvar Hazy, I would definitely opt for the Udvar Hazy. It is easier to reach by plane or car than public transport, but for a pilot any visit to DC without the Udvar Hazy would be incomplete.

I go to the downtown museum a couple of times a year, but that is mostly as a treat for my kids on a rainy day.

As for the hotel recommendations: If you really want to go to DC, get a hotel in DC. Cabs are cheap and plentyful (even after the recent fair hike), if you do anything in the evenings nothing beats just hopping into a cab rather than tyring to get a connection on the metro, as great as the metro is otherwise.

I second the suggestion to use your trip to get vetted for the FRZ. The cost is minimal and you could combine your trip to the FSDO at Dulles with a visit to Udvar Hazy (the FSDO is 1/2 a mile from there). If you go through VKX for the number, all you need in terms of legwork is a visit to the DCA operations office (they validate short-term parking, check on opening hours) and a trip to the FSDO at Dulles. That way, you'll get access to College park (fly-in metro station) and VKX (short cab ride downtown) for future trips.
 
I'd stay in ARL or DC. Too far out and it will be a PITA to get into and out of town daily. I'd actually consider DC itself because it will be very nice to be able to pop by your hotel for a quick bag drop off or freshen up. Too far out and you are stuck downtown for the day, schlepping your stuff. The price difference really won't be that much.
 
Look into renting a bike, I think they have like 150 stations to pickup/drop them off. Personally if I did not live in the area I'd stay in MD. It's cheaper and has metro access. Best place for this would be in greenbelt (green line into DC). I see a lot of tourists doing this and the hotels have shuttles of course. Hit the green line and transfer to the red line not even five stops later. Four stops/ eight mins and you're in DC. From there red line to union station and you can walk,bike, or get a tour from there to just about all the attractions. Most tourist stuff is in NE and SE.

From Union a simple 10 min bike ride will get you to a 16 mile bike trail that goes into VA and passes KDCA. Easy mall access so you have the capitol,museums,etc all right there.

The idea is simple, Union Station= Must.
 
These days, if the options are air and space downtown vs. Udvar Hazy, I would definitely opt for the Udvar Hazy. It is easier to reach by plane or car than public transport, but for a pilot any visit to DC without the Udvar Hazy would be incomplete.

Not hard by public transit...WMATA's 5A from L'Enfant Plaza goes there...$6 plus a shuttle bus from KIAD to the museum is $1.50 or $1.25
 
Tim, Andrew, Bill: I might take you up on the offers for further info. Timing is still TBD. Both kids are home from college now, but both will be taking some summer courses. We'll have to figure out just when we can make it based on their schedule - might be August.

Last time I was in DC was maybe mid-late '70s. I think the Air and Space museum must have just opened? I do remember going there.

Matt

PS - Tim, I think we actually met for lunch back in KC a year or two ago - BBQ at Oklahoma Joe's (one of the things that should be on everyone's bucket list).

YES! I knew you seemed familiar.
 
Night time tour of the monuments. He had a great guide, learned a lot, and the views were really good.

ANd very specifically, do not miss the Korean War memorial at night. It is absolutely etherial. The others are nice, the Korean memorial is outstanding.
 
Here's another tourist tip: do not under any circumstances eat in the museum cafeterias...way overpriced and crappy food (American Indian museum is an exception to the crappy food part, but still expensive). The dirty water dog vendors aren't generally much better. A better bet is to hit the nearby food trucks. A block a way from Air and Space...7th St NW, between independence and Maryland Ave is a popular congrating spot. You can find all the locations at www.foodtruckfiesta.com
 
Before you leave home, contact your local congressmans or senators office and ask whether they can arrange for a 'staff tour' of the capitol.

Instead of waiting in line with 200 others, some 20something staffer from his or her office will walk you through the building. It is not so much that you get access to any secret areas, it is simply a lot more pleasant than doing it in a cattle herd.

You can do this when you are in DC already. Just find the congressional office building that your rep has his office in and walk up to their office. The people there get paid to be excessively nice :wink2: .
 
Before you leave home, contact your local congressmans or senators office and ask whether they can arrange for a 'staff tour' of the capitol.

Instead of waiting in line with 200 others, some 20something staffer from his or her office will walk you through the building. It is not so much that you get access to any secret areas, it is simply a lot more pleasant than doing it in a cattle herd.

You can do this when you are in DC already. Just find the congressional office building that your rep has his office in and walk up to their office. The people there get paid to be excessively nice :wink2: .

The last time I contacted my congressman was when I sent a nasty-gram about the proposed $100/flight user fees (he's on our side, by the way). I ended up getting a phone call from one of the staffers - she sounded nice looking. I might have to drop by.
 
The last time I contacted my congressman was when I sent a nasty-gram about the proposed $100/flight user fees (he's on our side, by the way).

Tell him you are in town, ask for a meeting. You never know.
 
> I second the suggestion to use your trip to get vetted for the FRZ.

By the time you visit the TSA @ DCA, the FSDO at Dulles and the GA airports ... you
damn near waste a whole day ...
 
> I second the suggestion to use your trip to get vetted for the FRZ.

By the time you visit the TSA @ DCA, the FSDO at Dulles and the GA airports ... you
damn near waste a whole day ...

Unless they have changed the process, the only two places you have to physically visit is the DCA operations office for the fingerprints (20min) and the Herndon FSDO (30min). The FSDO requires an appointment, but if one plans to go to Udvar Hazy anyway, this can be conveniently combined into one trip to Dulles.
 
Unless they have changed the process, the only two places you have to physically visit is the DCA operations office for the fingerprints (20min) and the Herndon FSDO (30min). The FSDO requires an appointment, but if one plans to go to Udvar Hazy anyway, this can be conveniently combined into one trip to Dulles.

As I recall, you had to go to one of the airports first. You have to get a briefing at the airport afterward (but that can be done after you fly in the first time).
 
Another stop I consider a must-see, albeit a depressing one, is the Holocaust Museum.
 
As I recall, you had to go to one of the airports first. You have to get a briefing at the airport afterward (but that can be done after you fly in the first time).

2 stops are sufficient, at least for VkX. The rest is online and via the phone.
 
That's not a bad price - but it suks they charge $10 to get on the interwebs.

It does, but many "upper scale" hotels charge. Worst I've ever seen was a hotel in a certain foreign country that wanted US $35/day for internet - I found a way to get it free in the executive lounge (a room on the exec floor was only US $20 more than a regular room and included lounge access).

There's a reason I own a MiFi/cellphone w/hotspot capability.
 
We did it, and had a great trip. Stayed at the Washington Plaza hotel on Thomas Circle - got a good enough deal that we could get two rooms, spread out a little, and not break the budget.

Walked around the White House the first evening we were there, right after dinner and got chased out by the Secret Service. They were closing off the sidewalk along the south lawn and you don't question guys that big, carrying weapons that big. There was 'something' going on, but the uniformed guards were pretty quiet about it, just telling pedestrians that the sidewalk was closed. One guy had a nylon case with a collapsible stock sticking out of it and his arm inside - another guy had on his black tactical gear and his weapon. Best quote of the night: we returned along the front of the White House, on Pennsylvania avenue, when a Secret Service guard was leaving through a gate. He closed the inner gate behind him, opened the outer gate and started to step out. A tourist said, "Hold the gate sir, please hold the gate!" The guard said, "Oh, I'll hold the gate ma'am, but if you get inside we're fightin'!!" Those guys are such kidders.

2nd day, walked the monuments in the morning. It's a great, sobering, and educational walk. I'm not sure what to make of all the Asian tourists, though. These are memorials to mostly ordinary Americans who did extraordinary things, it isn't Disneyland designed so you can make your kids run in front of the monuments so you can snap a picture before running to the next one. Went to the Natural History museum for the rest of the day.

Next morning, hit Arlington Cemetery - happened to be at the Tomb of the Unknown for the changing of the guard. Saw a lot of familiar names on a lot of the headstones (Rickover, Murphy, among a lot of others). Made the hike over to the Marine Corps memorial. Pictures do not do justice to that sculpture. You have to see it in person to realize just how big it is. Spent the afternoon at the Air and Space museum.

We were getting beat from walking, so we stuck to one museum the following day - the Holocaust museum. That one wore me out. I was numb before I got through the first floor of the main exhibit. I nearly lost it when a guy behind me was telling his kids a story about his own father that he'd never told them before.

Last day was spent at the International Spy Museum - a very neat place, and the Portrait Gallery across the street (they had a nice exhibit on Amelia Earhart - I really liked that art gallery). Finished the evening with that walk around the south lawn that we didn't get to complete the first night.

Metro was great - we got the Smart passcards preloaded with $25 worth of fares each and pretty much used them all up by the time we finished.

Dinners:
Tortilla Coast - best.tacos al pastor.ever
Ben's Chili Bowl - don't miss the half-smoke
Thai Tanic - best restaurant name (pretty good food, too)
Legal Seafood - had to get crab cakes at least one time.

There really is no way to even scratch the surface in a single trip.
 
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