Cost of HIMS AME for difficult case.

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Is there an average cost per hour to hire a HIMS AME to take a difficult class 3 medical case?
I know the total hours will vary on a case by case basis.
By difficult, I'm talking history of anxiety,depression and ADHD.
 
Is there an average cost per hour to hire a HIMS AME to take a difficult class 3 medical case?
I know the total hours will vary on a case by case basis.
By difficult, I'm talking history of anxiety,depression and ADHD.

I can't comment on your anxiety, depression, and ADHD, but I can compare it to substance dependence.

The responsibilities and complexities of HIMS are demanding on airmen as well as AMEs. I don't see any way a doc could do justice to the job part-time. A good HIMS AME will be upfront about this, and their advocacy efforts are invaluable to making a painfully slow process tolerable. Find someone who's full time work is as a HIMS AME. These doctors may cost a few bucks more, but they're worth it.

I haven't seen costs billed per hour. My experience has been that they bill per visit. It's not out of the realm to see $150-$250 per 1-3hr visit. It would be entirely justified for them to bill for their time advocating and coordinating with the FAA on your behalf, and I would expect the rate to be similar to their per visit hourly rate.

The AME is usually the smallest portion of the total HIMS expense. The real money kicks in to see specialists for evaluation. To give you an idea, the "full" neuropsychological battery can easily run $3500 depending on where you get it administered. Add a psychiatrist, requests to past providers, substance monitoring, non HIMS specialist visits, lab work, costs to obtain past medical documentation, ongoing SI compliance, time off work, travel etc. It can get expensive fast.

A reasonably straight forward alcohol dependence case can easily run more than $15k before a medical is issued. After issuance, SI compliance can run in the $1-$2k per year range for monitoring, psychiatric follow up, and medical exams.
 
As someone under HIMS monitoring waiting to be submitted for an SI:

Annual Monitoring: ~$2000
Quarterly Meeting: -$350/visit
Neuropsych: ~$3500
Annual Randoms: ~$1500

I’ll say the doctor I ended up with I am extremely grateful for, when I was searching I ran into some that wouldn’t even offer an appointment without receiving $600 or were not accepting new patients etc…

It’s definitely been a pricey road, but as poster above states, with this HIMS AME I feel confident I am actually getting somewhere!

Best of luck….my timeline started with my *expected* deferral in April!
 
what ThatotherGuy wrote exactly.

The psych eval and tests cost me about 3k...
twice. **** tests (3-4 of them while going thru psych tests) at around $100 each time. I am awaiting to hear back from the FAA so I'm not sure of the ongoing cost if I get the SI granted.

Whatever the AME costs you it will be well worth it. Good luck.
 
I'll emphasize what was already said....

Do a solid search for the best AME for your needs. One who understands the process and is willing to go to bat against the FAA as your advocate. One who will take the extra steps to ensure you're getting all done correctly and nothing is getting left out. One who periodically calls the FAA to find out status and your file hasn't been shunted to the "when we get around to it" pile.
 
I am trying to apply for ppl.
I am worried that my 3 dui's will affect my approval for medical.
I have heard that I'll be denied then have to appeal and enroll into him's.
Anyone been through this.
Dui 1 2007
Dui 2 2014
Dui 3 2018
Also a few driving while license suspended.

Any actually experience would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
 
3 DUIs….that’s gonna be tough. My guess is you will need rehab followed by AA….and a lot of time and money. Nothing is impossible though.
 
I am trying to apply for ppl.
I am worried that my 3 dui's will affect my approval for medical.
I have heard that I'll be denied then have to appeal and enroll into him's.
Anyone been through this.
Dui 1 2007
Dui 2 2014
Dui 3 2018
Also a few driving while license suspended.

Any actually experience would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks


Quit drinking and fly Light Sport ... ;)
 
I am trying to apply for ppl.
I am worried that my 3 dui's will affect my approval for medical.
I have heard that I'll be denied then have to appeal and enroll into him's.
Anyone been through this.
Dui 1 2007
Dui 2 2014
Dui 3 2018
Also a few driving while license suspended.

Any actually experience would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

It will affect your chances of an approved medical. Follow block D.

https://www.faa.gov/about/office_or...UIDWI_Alcohol_Incidents_Disposition_Table.pdf

Your BAC for each event will influence the FAAs decision to certify your history. They may require a lifetime of provable sobriety via documented participation in sobriety programs and self funded random urinalysis testing up to 14x annually.

In addition to all the DWI records, you’ll need driver registry checks from everywhere you’ve been licensed, so those will show up even if you try to hide them.

Good luck.
 
I am trying to apply for ppl.
I am worried that my 3 dui's will affect my approval for medical.
I have heard that I'll be denied then have to appeal and enroll into him's.
Anyone been through this.
Dui 1 2007
Dui 2 2014
Dui 3 2018
Also a few driving while license suspended.

That's quite a mouthful. How long have you been sober and can you prove it?
 
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