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Did you get the version with all the placards in Chinese? Getcha one of these too to complete the look (Fu Manchu optional):
Cirrus SR series Generation 6?!
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Did you get the version with all the placards in Chinese? Getcha one of these too to complete the look (Fu Manchu optional):
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A Chinese government owned entity owns Cirrus. It also owns Continental motors, which is why I find it curious Cirrus put a Lycoming in the Gen6 SR20.
They own it, but it's being run by experienced local talent.
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That 'stache would be the official 6PC-approved Cirrus pilot look?
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That is probably is best way to go. Keep the people that already have experience in the product. That is a lot better than starting from the ground up, a lot of loyal customers would've probably left.
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Maybe Gen 6 will be a center-line twin.
NoHeat
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After skipping generation 4, because 4 is unlucky in China, I'm surprised Cirrus didn't skip 6 and go directly to 7, which is lucky in the US.
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Due to the fact the Cirrus brand and the Mooney brand are both owned by the Chinese. Which company do you think is doing better overall?
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Cirrus. No doubt. Rarely hear "Mooney 123AB" over ATC... and can't recall the last time I saw a newer-looking Mooney on any field.
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Mooney is owned by a private Chinese entity. Cirrus is owned by a Chinese government entity. Neither publish financial results that the public can see, so impossible to tell.
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Even if they did, they'd be cooked anyways. Distinction without a difference really...
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Rhetorical question, right?
In 2015, Mooney sold 11 planes and Cirrus sold 301. Doubt that 2016 will turn out much different.
Mooney's are great planes, but apparently very labor-intensive to build. Unless they're making a "small fortune" on parts and support, hard to see how they survive on numbers like that.
But I wish them well.
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They survive by moving the labour intensive production to Asia where labour is cheaper? Forgot the US market, where they aren't selling many units anyway, ignore the inevitable Tweets from YKW and concentrate on developing the Chinese training market, which is apparently growing rapidly.
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Like I said, I wish them well!
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I didn't know that, is Cirrus over in China doing the same thing?
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No, they are both still manufacturing in the USA. But I think likely Mooney starts to move production across the Pacific. The M10 is a composite airplane targeting the training and piston single entry level market. I don't think the margins on that airplane will be enough to keep making it in Texas indefinitely. If Mooney can gain sales volumes in China exporting from Texas they will later start making thise planes, or at least major components, in Asia.