Chinese Trinidad Clone Spins on Base turn

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Chinese Trinidad TB-20 clone, locally named Shijiazhuang LE-500 Little Eagle, crashed in China during an air exhibition.

Dramatic dive and spin on base turn.

From Chinese translation:
Impacted flat terrain about 1,640 feet from the approach end of runway 18, at the Luan Cheng General Aviation Airport. The pilot and 3 passengers were fatally injured, and the aircraft was destroyed in a post crash fire. The flight was an exhibition flight that had remained in the pattern at the airport, and had been airborne about 10 minutes when the pilot radioed that there was a malfunction.

Pretty dramatic crash video. Looks like a trail of smoke going down:
https://twitter.com/PDChina/status/776407348541665280?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^776407348541665280|twgr^share_3&ref_url=https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=190074
 
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I think it made the rounds already, Sep 15, 2016. Still a bad accident.
 
NordicDave said:
Impacted flat terrain about 1,640 feet from the approach end of runway 18...
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I hate lines like this. I wish they would write "...about 500 meters...", which (I'm sure) is the original translation and would be understood by most anyone.

I see too many stories where an approximate number like 500 meters is changed into a much more exact number, misleading people into thinking there is a degree of precision in the figures which doesn't exist. The old significant digits thing...
 
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a close friend died the same way, same type.

long story made short ,,the wing came.
 
sourdough44 said:
I think it made the rounds already, Sep 15, 2016. Still a bad accident.
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I hadn't seen the prior posts. For me I have never seen a base turn spin. Tragic, there is really no time for recovery. We know this, but eye opening to actually see it.
 
kyleb said:
I hate lines like this. I wish they would write "...about 500 meters...", which (I'm sure) is the original translation and would be understood by most anyone.

I see too many stories where an approximate number like 500 meters is changed into a much more exact number, misleading people into thinking there is a degree of precision in the figures which doesn't exist. The old scientific digits thing...
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Geez, try a little less coffee...like 236.588 ml less.
 
kyleb said:
I hate lines like this. I wish they would write "...about 500 meters...", which (I'm sure) is the original translation and would be understood by most anyone.

I see too many stories where an approximate number like 500 meters is changed into a much more exact number, misleading people into thinking there is a degree of precision in the figures which doesn't exist. The old scientific digits thing...
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wHAT? I mean, I still know that's about 5 football fields distance... or 1/3 mile, or whatever. Just because you don't use metric doesn't mean y'er stupid.
 
RyanShort1 said:
wHAT? I mean, I still know that's about 5 football fields distance... or 1/3 mile, or whatever. Just because you don't use metric doesn't mean y'er stupid.
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It has nothing to do with metric vs imperial. It has to do with the implied precision of the measurement. 500M (or 550 yards) implies that it is an estimated distance with a fair amount of slop in the estimate. 1640' implies that someone measured it to the nearest 10'. It may not make a huge difference in this case, but it is sloppy writing and mischaracterizes the actual information.
 
kyleb said:
It has nothing to do with metric vs imperial. It has to do with the implied precision of the measurement. 500M (or 550 yards) implies that it is an estimated distance with a fair amount of slop in the estimate. 1640' implies that someone measured it to the nearest 10'. It may not make a huge difference in this case, but it is sloppy writing and mischaracterizes the actual information.
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So maybe "approximately 1500 feet" would be more satisfactory?
 
Just stick with meters. Eventually people will learn.
 
..also, is it common to load a plane for an air show exhibition? Four passengers in a TB-20 has to be nearing its max gross.. doesn't give a lot of margin and increases the risk factor should there be an accident..
 
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