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PPL Check ride set again for mon sept 11 ..Lost first 2 dates to weather first was rain but i did get to drive to 1b1 to get the oral out of the way (went well) ... the second time the viz was not within my comfort level so i choose reschedule... Now the date is fast approaching lol and the nights r getting sleepless again lol .... any advise
 
I don't have it handy. But go to AOPA and search Ron Levy's checkride advice.
Nothing better than that.

Mark B.
 
Captain Levy’s Checkride Advice

1. Relax and enjoy it. Nationwide, about 90% of applicants pass on the first try, so look around and see if you think you’re as good as 9 out of 10 other students. Also, your instructor must maintain a pass rate of at least 80% to get his ticket renewed, so he’s not going to send you up unless he’s pretty darn sure you’ll pass – otherwise, he has to find four other people to pass to make up for you, and that’s not always easy.

2. Go over with your instructor the logbooks of the aircraft you're going to use the day BEFORE the checkride to make sure it's all in order (annual, transponder checks, ELT ops and battery, 100-hour if rented, etc.). If the airplane's paper busts, so do you. Run a sample W&B, too – get the examiner’s weight when you make the appointment. If you weight 200, and so does the examiner, don’t show up with a C-152 with full tanks and a 350 lb available cabin load – examiners can’t waive max gross weight limits.

3. Relax.

4. Rest up and get a good night's sleep the night before. Don't stay up "cramming."

5. Relax.

6. Read carefully the ENTIRE PTS including all the introductory material. Use the checklist in the front to make sure you take all the stuff you need -- papers and equipment. And the examiner’s fee UP FRONT (too much chance a disgruntled applicant will refuse to pay afterward) in the form demanded by the examiner is a “required document” from a practical, if not FAA, standpoint.

7. Relax.

8. You're going to make some minor mistakes. Correct them yourself in a timely manner "so the outcome of the maneuver is never seriously in doubt" and you'll be OK. If you start to go high on your first steep turn and start a correction as you approach 100 feet high but top out at 110 high while making a smooth correction back to the requested altitude, don't sweat -- nail the next one and you'll pass with "flying colors" (a naval term, actually). If you see the maneuver will exceed parameters and not be smoothly recoverable, tell the examiner and knock it off before you go outside those parameters, and then re-initiate. That shows great sense, if not great skill, and judgement is the most critical item on the checkride.

9. Relax.

10. During the oral, you don’t have to answer from memory anything you’d have time to look up in reality. You never need to memorize and know everything. Categorize material as:

a. Things you must memorize (i.e. emergency procedures, radio calls, airspace, etc).
b. Things you must know or have reasonable understanding of (i.e. interpreting weather codes, non-critical regs).
c. Things you know about but can look up and will have time to look up on the ground.

(Thanks to Mark Bourdeaux for this categorization.) So if the examiner asks you about currency, it’s OK to open the FAR book to 61.56 and 61.57 and explain them to him. But make sure you know where the answer is without reading the whole FAR/AIM cover-to-cover. On the other hand, for stuff you’d have to know RIGHT NOW (e.g., best glide speed for engine failure, etc.), you’d best not stumble or stutter – know that stuff cold. Also, remember that the examiner will use the areas your knowledge test report says you missed as focus points in the oral, so study them extra thoroughly.

11. Relax.

12. Avoid this conversation:
Examiner - Q: Do you have a pencil?

Applicant - A: I have a #2, a mechanical, a red one...
Examiner - Q: Do you have a pencil?
Applicant - A: I also have an assortment of pens, and some highlighters...
Examiner - Q: Do you have a pencil?
Applicant - A: Yes.
Examiner - Thank you.
One of the hardest things to do when you’re nervous and pumped up is to shut up and answer the question. I've watched people talk themselves into a corner by incorrectly answering a question that was never asked, or by adding an incorrect appendix to the correct answer to the question that was. If the examiner wants more, he'll tell you.

13. Relax

14. Some questions are meant simply to test your knowledge, not your skill, even if they sound otherwise. If the examiner asks how far below the cloud deck you are, he is checking to see if you know the answer is “at least 500 feet,” not how good your depth perception is. He can’t tell any better than you can, and the only way to be sure is to climb up and see when you hit the bases, which for sure he won’t let you do.

15. Relax

16. Remember the first rule of Italian driving: "What's behind me is not important." Don't worry about how you did the last maneuver or question. If you didn't do it well enough, the examiner must notify you and terminate the checkride. If you are on the next one, forget the last one because it was good enough to pass. Focus on doing that next maneuver or answering the next question the best you can, because while it can still determine whether you pass or fail, the last one can’t anymore. If you get back to the office and he hasn't said you failed, smile to your friends as you walk in because you just passed.

17. Relax and enjoy your new license.


Ron Levy, ATP, CFI, Veteran of 11 license/rating checkrides, including 4 with FAA inspectors
 
markb5900 said:
I don't have it handy. But go to AOPA and search Ron Levy's checkride advice.
Nothing better than that.

Mark B.

And Ron's advice has served a number of us well over the years. I know it helped me when I took my PP ride, and I expect it will help again with I take my IR ride some time in the future.

Thanks, Ron.
 
Student4life said:
PPL Check ride set again for mon sept 11 ..Lost first 2 dates to weather first was rain but i did get to drive to 1b1 to get the oral out of the way (went well) ... the second time the viz was not within my comfort level so i choose reschedule... Now the date is fast approaching lol and the nights r getting sleepless again lol .... any advise

Get sleep, relax, fly the airplane, smile & enjoy. Do those four things, and you'll be fine.
 
For me number 16 was very important and was the key to allowing me to do nbrs 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, and 15!
 
In addition to (and far less wise than) Ron's advice:

1. Don't make 'em scared.

2. Don't make 'em mad.

3. Don't argue with 'em.

4. Laughter is always good. ;)

Good luck, and you can sleep when you're a pilot! (hey, isn't that why they make autopilots????) :eek:
 
The DE isn't out to get you. S/he just wants to make sure you're not out to get them -- killed, that is.

We can provide advice 'till we're blue in the fingertips, but I can't imagine anything that will really help you to observe Ron's most important advice (if you didn't pick up on it -- RELAX!!!!).

Your CFI wouldn't turn you lose if you couldn't handle it. Still, everyone has their day. If you make a mistake, and catch it in time, tell them and try again. If you don't catch it in time, you'll still get the chance to come back and do it over. None of us on this board would think the less of you were that to happen.

But it won't. Because you'll do fine. Know the plane, know the maneuvers, keep breathing (I kind of forgot to do that a few times on my ride) and, "RELAX."

Good luck.
 
HI guys ... Thanks for all the advise ... I will let u all know how it it all went ... and good luck to u aswell steve!!! let me know how it went for you

Paul
 
Got a call today.. cancelled because of VIP TFR in NY. rescheduled to friday :(
 
Hi again ! ... Well the day is over and the Checkride went Great !! What a feeling to hear the DP say congrats you Passed !!! WOW !!! This is something !!! Thanks for all the advice and relax that is key !!!

Now Let the learning Begin !!!

Best Wishes for your ride on friday Steve
 
good work! Now make sure to get a plane reserved for Gastons next June! :)
 
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