CFI logging instrument instruction

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Can a CFI without an instrument rating on his flight instructor certificate (not a CFII) log instruction time while providing instruction in IMC to an instrument rated pilot?

61.195 Flight instructor limitations and qualifications.
(c) Instrument rating.

This section only applies to instruction counting towards getting an instrument rating or for the commercial pilot. Since the instrument training given in my example is not for the issuance of any rating, it seems it should be allowed.

What about an MEI that is only a CFI, not a CFII. Can he give the instruction on the single engine instrument approach required for a multi-engine add-on per the ACS requirement for an instrument rated pilot to have instrument on the multi rating? It seems this situation is the same since you are giving instrument instruction to an instrument rated pilot.
 
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