Big landslide in Big Sur

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I flew out in a 172 to take a look at the big landslide. It's a whopper. For scale, there is a truck and some construction equipment parked on the highway on the right side of the frame. And the coastline was approximately straight before the slide.DSC03710.JPG

Since I couldn't reach Oakland Center to traverse the nearby restricted airspace, we diverted south and took a picture of some rich guy's house.DSC03727.JPG
 
NoHeat said:
Unusual activity for a house. Two tour buses are disgorging passengers in the foreground, and dozens of people are wandering the plaza-like sidewalks. They look like tourists to me.
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It's not a house, it's a castle. And the rich guy doesn't own it any more. ;)
 
Both the road along the cliff and the house complex seem to be humans trying to tame and shape Mother Nature.

Too many bathrooms to clean in the latter. Looks like he's building a "small" MIL suite addition in the upper left. :D
 
asicer said:
It's not a house, it's a castle. And the rich guy doesn't own it any more. ;)
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That's not a castle at all.

For a castle, check out Carcassonne (it is close to Toulouse France and the Airbus factory).

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This is a castle; Neuschwanstein in Germany. Apparently the inspiration for Disney.

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How the hell are they going to get a road back through there? Won't the ground be moosh? Are they sure nobody was buried in there?
 
Mutts said:
How the hell are they going to get a road back through there? Won't the ground be moosh? Are they sure nobody was buried in there?
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We engineers looove that kind of challenge :D, along with the big budgets that go with it :eek: .
 
Someone opined it would be a Million Tons to remove. Could be, looking at the picture - nice pic btw.
Ya needed to sell it before publishing. You can bet it will be used elsewhere now.
I don't see any choice other than to pitch the spoil over the side. A system of conveyors and a tunnel boring machine.
At this point I have no way to estimate what it will take to stabilize the slope.
Just looking I'm estimating 2 years. The Peoples Republic of California is flat broke and will be whining to DC for money. Gonna be interesting after all the attacks by the govt and elected pols in Cal on the current administration.
Dc will have to help them in the end but I'm thinking that some groveling will be de rigueur to kick start the money train.
 
Just to clarify, the tunnel machine is for removing the spoil while it continues to cascade down on you - not for boring a tunnel. Lots faster than diggers and trucks.
 
Maybe they can just blast it all out and get it to where there is nothing left that can slide???
Hey! MOAB!!!!
 
Damn that sucks! I was just down there like 6 months ago rippin around corners in a 911 :D :D
 
Wow, that's quite a slide!
 
Just a couple pickup loads of illegals with shovels could have that cleared up in a few hours.....:lol::lol::lol:
 
Dav8or said:
Man o' man! The California Coastal Commission is going to be enraged!! They will go on the war path. This alteration of the coastline was done without a permit, an environment impact report, or their permission!!
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That was my first thought as well...who are the Coastal Commission F#&K-Tards gonna try and fine for this!

That body has WAY too much power for being an appointed unelected commission...but that is for another rant.
 
After the big quake coming soon to CA most of Hiway 1 will be buried like this and most of the bridges along the hiway also gone. The whole coast of CA and WA are slowly going bye bye anyway even with small tremors.
 
citizen5000 said:
After the big quake coming soon to CA most of Hiway 1 will be buried like this and most of the bridges along the hiway also gone. The whole coast of CA and WA are slowly going bye bye anyway even with small tremors.
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HA!...I love hearing this argument. I will take an earthquake risk ANY day of the week over the tornado or hurricane threat a lot of the rest of the country is under. In an earthquakes all I need to be is outside to be safe...good luck with that in those other two disasters.

We may have more natural disasters...that is cuz we have more natural resources to enjoy!

...and yeah, we do just need to bring up some of the immigrants to clear that slide. The will run circles around the american work ethic!
 
GRG55 said:
This is a castle; Neuschwanstein in Germany. Apparently the inspiration for Disney.

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The german name translates into 'palace' rather than 'castle'. It was built for the same purpose as the one on the bluff in California. There was a medieval castle in the same location prior to it being built, but that went by a different name.
 
citizen5000 said:
After the big quake coming soon to CA most of Hiway 1 will be buried like this and most of the bridges along the hiway also gone. The whole coast of CA and WA are slowly going bye bye anyway even with small tremors.
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:rofl:

I remember in the spring of 1969 a whole cult frenzy developed over the imminent Big One causing California to slide in to the Pacific. It was almost as ridiculous as the Dec 21, 2012 Mayan calendar day of reckoning.

As I recall it is the underwater Juan De Fuca plate that is subducting under the North American plate, so not sure how WA and Cali "disappear" in that scenario. But even if they did who would miss them. :dunno:

There was a recent thread where I think Shepherd posted a link to Shango's reggae ode to that time in '69.

Day after day, more people come to L..A..
Don't you tell anybody, the whole place's slipping away
Where can we go, when there's no San Francisco ?
Better get ready to tie up the boat in Idaho

Do you know the swim, you better learn quick Jim
Those who don't know the swim, better sing the hymn...​
 
The last big one was 1906 a 7.8. In geologic time that is a few seconds and the geologic record indicates the next big one on the San Andreas is overdue and as such will no doubt be larger than the 06 quake. If the 06 quake happened today hundreds of thousands would be killed and at least 20,000 buildings/structures destroyed.

Seismologist Lucy Jones from the US Geological Survey warned in a dramatic speech in Japan last month that people need to stop ignoring the threat. In 2011 there was a 9.0 earthquake off the east coast of Japan and around 10% of the population died. The Pacific ring of fire is a system of faults mirrored on either side of the Pacific.

A 9.0 quake would be 15 times bigger and 65 times stronger than the 06 quake and would sink either San Francisco bay area or the Los Angeles coast and valley three feet in a few seconds with resultant seawater flooding and tsunami. The disaster would lead to at least a million deaths and most of either city completely destroyed. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4540590/California-s-Big-One-happening-devastate.html
 
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citizen5000 said:
The last big one was 1906 a 7.8. In geologic time that is a few seconds and the geologic record indicates the next big one on the San Andreas is overdue and as such will no doubt be larger than the 06 quake. If the 06 quake happened today hundreds of thousands would be killed and at least 20,000 buildings/structures destroyed.

Seismologist Lucy Jones from the US Geological Survey warned in a dramatic speech in Japan last month that people need to stop ignoring the threat. In 2011 there was a 9.0 earthquake off the east coast of Japan and around 10% of the population died. The Pacific ring of fire is a system of faults mirrored on either side of the Pacific.

A 9.0 quake would be 15 times bigger and 65 times stronger than the 06 quake and would sink either San Francisco bay area or the Los Angeles coast and valley three feet in a few seconds with resultant seawater flooding and tsunami. The disaster would lead to at least a million deaths and most of either city completely destroyed. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4540590/California-s-Big-One-happening-devastate.html
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You use the Daily Mail as a source for your scientific information?

Please tell me you're kidding.

9.0 earthquakes have happened in the US, just not in California. While devastating, they simply have not caused the armageddon you describe. The most recent was 1964 in Anchorage. That's one of the largest earthquakes ever recorded anywhere. Yet, the few bridges didn't come down, and the deaths were in the hundreds, despite Anchorage having a population around 100,000 at the time. It did, however, take out the PANC control tower.

No one seriously believes a 9 point earthquake is all that likely. 8 point, sure, but the bridges are designed to withstand that. It's not AT ALL a small difference, so don't even go there, or you'll prove you don't understand logarithmic scales.

Here is a substantially more reliable source than a British tabloid known for sensationalism and questionable reality: https://www.scec.org/ucerf

And here's a big hint: The San Andreas is not the major fault risk. It ruptures fairly regularly, and just doesn't make the largest earthquakes. Despite your claim, it has ruptured in 1989 (north) and 1994 (south), each of which killed several dozen people, no more.

Another big hint: Almost all of San Francisco and especially Los Angeles is well above 3 feet above sea level. A tsunami would cause significant damage, especially to the harbors, but fall well short of completely destroying either city.

Oh, and we had a tsunami in 2011. If you didn't own a yacht in the Santa Cruz harbor, you didn't notice. That was 5 feet of flow, not 3.
 
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citizen5000 said:
In 2011 there was a 9.0 earthquake off the east coast of Japan and around 10% of the population died. The Pacific ring of fire is a system of faults mirrored on either side of the Pacific.

A 9.0 quake would be 15 times bigger and 65 times stronger than the 06 quake and would sink either San Francisco bay area or the Los Angeles coast and valley three feet in a few seconds with resultant seawater flooding and tsunami. The disaster would lead to at least a million deaths and most of either city completely destroyed. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4540590/California-s-Big-One-happening-devastate.html
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While the risk is indeed present, a lot of those hypothesis are just theory as to the results. Most of the deaths you talk about above were from the resulting tsunami...not the earthquakes and damage itself. Different geography in that part of the world. To create a tsunami the fault needs to be under the water and the thrusting and displacement of the rupturing ground is what creates the tsunami wave, not the shaking. Most of CA's active faults are inland which is why there has been no significant tsunami as a result of a CA earthquake ever documented.

Earthquakes from other regions are are more of a tsunami threat to CA than our own earthquakes unless you believe that fear mongering headline...I know, science is hard.

There is a risk...but so is everything we do in life.

Here is a fun link to natural disaster data...based on this actual history alone looks like CA is a pretty safe place to live!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_natural_disasters_by_death_toll

MAKG1 said:
Oh, and we had a tsunami in 2011. If you didn't own a yacht in the Santa Cruz harbor, you didn't notice. That was 5 feet of flow, not 3.
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I noticed but my boat was one dock away from the docks that got destroyed. Boat was swamped but it survived.
 
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citizen5000 said:
The last big one was 1906 a 7.8. In geologic time that is a few seconds and the geologic record indicates the next big one on the San Andreas is overdue and as such will no doubt be larger than the 06 quake. If the 06 quake happened today hundreds of thousands would be killed and at least 20,000 buildings/structures destroyed.

Seismologist Lucy Jones from the US Geological Survey warned in a dramatic speech in Japan last month that people need to stop ignoring the threat. In 2011 there was a 9.0 earthquake off the east coast of Japan and around 10% of the population died. The Pacific ring of fire is a system of faults mirrored on either side of the Pacific.

A 9.0 quake would be 15 times bigger and 65 times stronger than the 06 quake and would sink either San Francisco bay area or the Los Angeles coast and valley three feet in a few seconds with resultant seawater flooding and tsunami. The disaster would lead to at least a million deaths and most of either city completely destroyed. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4540590/California-s-Big-One-happening-devastate.html
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We just need to make sure "The Rock" is available to air lift his family out.
 
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