Balled Up a C170 - 2 Deceased

Quite sad. :(

Although the cause of the crash is unknown, Oklahoma Highway Patrol officials said an initial investigation shows that the pilot was trying to land the plane when the crash occurred.

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Jeez, that is one heck of a landing accident. Interestingly, the wings are not folded and struts are not collapsed.

No shortage of windy days in Oklahoma, and that can certainly be a challenge for taildraggery, but the windsock does not look fully extended. Plus a ground loop usually drags a wing.
 
A different view - Pretty shocking.
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Sad condolences to the families RIP
 
Certainly looks like it went in nose-first since the wings aren't ripped apart and the empenage is mostly intact. Might have been a failed go-around/stall.
 
That’s terrible. I’m curious to what happened.
 
Certainly looks like it went in nose-first since the wings aren't ripped apart and the empenage is mostly intact. Might have been a failed go-around/stall.
That's what it looks like, alright. The wing leading edges have been compressed, indicating a fairly even impact with the ground.
 
Based on the Engine being pushed back flush with the leading edge and the landing gear completely rolled 180 degrees, I'd say that was a high speed vertical impact.

The impact appears to be contained in a small, oil soaked spot.

Terrible...
 
That looks like a stall/spin to me. Sadly, I witnessed one several years ago.
 
Wow, that's rough :frown3:. It's a wonder there wasn't a fireball
 
Wow... this one got a lot more interesting...

NTSB issue the preliminary report into the fatal accident involving a Cessna 170B, N2710D, that occurred on November 28, 2022, at Gage Airport (GAG/KGAG), Oklahoma:
On November 28, 2022, at 0820 central standard time, a Cessna 170B airplane, N2710D, was destroyed when it was involved in an accident near Gage, Oklahoma. The airplane owner and second occupant were fatally injured. The airplane was operated as a Title 14 Code of Federal Regulations Part 91 personal flight.

GPS data revealed that the airplane departed from Vici Municipal Airport (5O1), Vici, Oklahoma, at 0652, and proceeded northwest. At 0726, the airplane landed on the turf airstrip at Gage Airport (GAG). At 0803, the airplane departed from the turf airstrip southbound and proceeded about 1.5 miles south and then returned to overfly the airport before returning to land. At 0816, the airplane again departed from the turf airstrip southbound. It appeared to return for a takeoff and landing (touch and go) and then proceeded north about 0.80 mile before returning to the airport. The final GPS data point was recorded at 0820:23 and was positioned about 265 ft north of the accident site. The altitude corresponding to the final data point was 2,238 ft. The approximate elevation at the accident site was 2,204 ft.

A witness observed the airplane taxi out for takeoff with the airplane owner seated in the right (co-pilot) seat and a friend of the owner seated in the left (pilot) seat. The airplane took off toward the south. It appeared that the wing flaps were extended, and the engine sounded “fine.” After lifting off, the airplane porpoised and entered a “steep” left turn. The airplane subsequently flew out to the north. After returning to the airport, the airplane appeared to be lined up on final approach for the turf runway. As the witness proceeded to open the hangar door, he heard the impact and turned to see the airplane. He responded to the accident site and notified local authorities.

The airplane came to rest inverted along the west edge of the paved ramp area. An initial impact ground scar was located about 15 ft. north of the main wreckage. The propeller was separated at the ground scar. The fuselage nose and engine were crushed aft and upward consistent with a nose low impact. The center fuselage was deformed, and the aft fuselage was partially separated. The empennage remained attached to the aft fuselage. Both wings remained attached to the fuselage and exhibited leading edge crushing damage along the entire spans. The flight control surfaces remained attached to the airframe.
The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) reported no record of either airplane occupant holding a pilot certificate or medical certificate. The airplane owner had applied for an airman medical certificate in 2013 which was denied. On the application, he reported a total flight experience of 6 hours.

According to FAA records, the current owner, and right seat occupant during the accident flight, purchased the airplane in September 2015. The airplane registration lapsed in September 2021 and was subsequently cancelled when the owner did not submit the required registration renewal.
 
Let's see. Denied medical, no pilot certificate. Does some "flight instruction" to another person. Sharp nose up after takeoff, followed by near vertical crash. I bet this 170 has no saf-t-stop or the like on the seats either.
 
Let's see. Denied medical, no pilot certificate. Does some "flight instruction" to another person. Sharp nose up after takeoff, followed by near vertical crash. I bet this 170 has no saf-t-stop or the like on the seats either.

I don’t have a saf-t-stop either. What does that have to do with anything?
 
Let's see. Denied medical, no pilot certificate. Does some "flight instruction" to another person. Sharp nose up after takeoff, followed by near vertical crash. I bet this 170 has no saf-t-stop or the like on the seats either.

If you read the whole report, it sounds like the accident happened during a landing, not the wild takeoff. But you are right on the other points. A non certificated pilot of unknown ability and experience appearing to "instruct" a non pilot.
 
Bet the obituary in the local paper will have a quote saying something like he died doing what he loved to do…similar incident around my local but a home built that no one new how to fly…but they died doing what they loved to do…
 
Bet the obituary in the local paper will have a quote saying something like he died doing what he loved to do…similar incident around my local but a home built that no one new how to fly…but they died doing what they loved to do…

And/or a family member disputing the FAA records, saying “they were meticulous and always followed the rules…”
 
Bet the obituary in the local paper will have a quote saying something like he died doing what he loved to do…similar incident around my local but a home built that no one new how to fly…but they died doing what they loved to do…
You're not far off...

David RonDel Dodd, Jr., 30, passed from this life on Monday, November 28, 2022. Funeral Mass will be at 11:00 am, Saturday, December 3, 2022, at Church of the Holy Spirit Catholic Church, Goddard, KS.

David grew up in Arnett, OK. He loved aviation and working on his airplanes. David was a great mechanic and could fix anything.
 
Let's see. Denied medical, no pilot certificate. Does some "flight instruction" to another person. Sharp nose up after takeoff, followed by near vertical crash. I bet this 170 has no saf-t-stop or the like on the seats either.
Yeah, Lewis' crash scene (and what occurred leading up to it) in "Last Man on Earth" came to mind.
 
You're not far off...

David RonDel Dodd, Jr., 30, passed from this life on Monday, November 28, 2022. Funeral Mass will be at 11:00 am, Saturday, December 3, 2022, at Church of the Holy Spirit Catholic Church, Goddard, KS.

David grew up in Arnett, OK. He loved aviation and working on his airplanes. David was a great mechanic and could fix anything.

Wow only 30. For some reason my mind imagined an older, more cantankerous pilot that just said well they can't stop me from doing what I want. Maybe it was just my personal experience knowing one or two older pilots that I later found out didn't have a certificate and/or medical.
 
Wow only 30. For some reason my mind imagined an older, more cantankerous pilot that just said well they can't stop me from doing what I want. Maybe it was just my personal experience knowing one or two older pilots that I later found out didn't have a certificate and/or medical.
Yes, a friend of my father was that which you describe. Flew IFR, never had any FAA paperwork. Probably was more common back then.
 
David grew up in Arnett, OK. He loved aviation and working on his airplanes. David was a great mechanic and could fix anything.
No pilot license. A lapsed aircraft registration.

And no aircraft mechanic's ticket, either, I bet.
 
Why does aviation attract these people?
Not that we want more aviation police, but your odds of getting caught if you don't have an accident are very slim. I've been flying over 30 years and I'm a very active pilot. I have been ramp checked twice and refused one of them and walked away. Try that with a police officer!
 
Not that we want more aviation police, but your odds of getting caught if you don't have an accident are very slim. I've been flying over 30 years and I'm a very active pilot. I have been ramp checked twice and refused one of them and walked away. Try that with a police officer!

That is honestly the truth. If you stay out of trouble, and don't draw attention to yourself, you can get away with a lot in aviation. It is largely a honor system, until you get caught. There isn't much to stop anyone from buying an airplane. You don't have to be a certificated pilot to register it. You are not required to insure it, unless you borrowed money against it.
 
So, Dodd had 6 hrs of flight time on his application in 2013, probably flying a lot since then, gave instruction to his 54yo "trainee", and killed both of them?

So no other person or pilot said anything for 10 years?

Wow.
 
No pilot license. A lapsed aircraft registration.

And no aircraft mechanic's ticket, either, I bet.
There is a "DAVID RANDEL DODD" in the database (as opposed to RonDel) with no medical date, and zero certificates.
 
Wow only 30. For some reason my mind imagined an older, more cantankerous pilot that just said well they can't stop me from doing what I want. Maybe it was just my personal experience knowing one or two older pilots that I later found out didn't have a certificate and/or medical.

Seems this one was no Second Hand Lion ...
 
So, Dodd had 6 hrs of flight time on his application in 2013, probably flying a lot since then, gave instruction to his 54yo "trainee", and killed both of them?

So no other person or pilot said anything for 10 years?

Wow.
Well, our group badmouthed crazy pilots for years, but I don't think any were reported.
 
Just because he didn’t have a certificate, does NOT mean he didn’t know how to fly. Just says he didn’t play by the rules.
 
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