Backwards Terminology?

[Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe]

Perhaps it's just me - but the way I remember these is to remember that they work backwards.

Non-movement area - this is where you can move all you want when you want in your airplane or car
Movement area - this is where you can't move without permission (at a towered field) or move in your car or...

Side slip - you have the airplane lined up with the ground track and are looking forward to see where you are going.
Forward slip - you have the airplane sideways to the ground track and are looking out the side of the airplane.

 

[fgcason]

And if you're under the hood and the instructor tells you to go to the racetrack, do not pull out your sectional and go to the little racetrack symbol from where you're at. He wants you to turn the entire other direction and go to the holding pattern. WTF????

 

[Clark1961]

Non-movement area - this is where you can move all you want when you want in your airplane or car
Movement area - this is where you can't move without permission (at a towered field) or move in your car or...

Would ya rather have'em called "do what we want" and "do what you want" areas?

It gets pretty funny sometimes at FTG on a sunny Saturday afternoon when folks fly in from the plains to get a little taste of the "big" airport. They tend to treat the airspace and airport as "do whatever we want" areas...

 

[Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe]

Would ya rather have'em called "do what we want" and "do what you want" areas?

How about calling the areas where you can move "movement" and the areas where you can't move "non-movement" instead of the other way around?

 

[Missa]

How about calling the areas where you can move "movement" and the areas where you can't move "non-movement" instead of the other way around?

better yet

"Free movement area"
"controlled movemenet area"

Since you can move in both, you just need permision for one.

Just like parking on a driveway and driving on the parkway...

 

[Clark1961]

How about calling the areas where you can move "movement" and the areas where you can't move "non-movement" instead of the other way around?

bbbut, but, but, I *can* move in both areas...now I'm confused.

I know, we should get Steve (roncachamp) to 'splain it all.

 

[gismo]

How about calling the areas where you can move "movement" and the areas where you can't move "non-movement" instead of the other way around?

I think you're missing the fact that the nomenclature comes from ATC not pilots. And from ATC's perspective the "movement area" is where they need to pay attention to what's moving. Just be happy that they didn't decide to call it the "pay-attention" area.

 

[roncachamp]

I know, we should get Steve (roncachamp) to 'splain it all.

Being of logical mind there is much about the FAA I am unable to 'splain.

 

[roncachamp]

I think you're missing the fact that the nomenclature comes from ATC not pilots. And from ATC's perspective the "movement area" is where they need to pay attention to what's moving. Just be happy that they didn't decide to call it the "pay-attention" area.

What makes you feel this nomenclature comes from ATC?

 

[gismo]

What makes you feel this nomenclature comes from ATC?

Actually I meant the FAA, not necessarily the ATC portion although I suspect that someone from ATC was around when that term was coined. In any case I'll bet you one of Old Bob's milkshakes that it wasn't a pilot.

 

[denverpilot]

Would ya rather have'em called "do what we want" and "do what you want" areas?

It gets pretty funny sometimes at FTG on a sunny Saturday afternoon when folks fly in from the plains to get a little taste of the "big" airport. They tend to treat the airspace and airport as "do whatever we want" areas...

Controlled and uncontrolled would have been clear and just fine.

FTG shouldn't have a tower anyway.

 

[Let'sgoflying!]

14 minutes of Geo Carlin's ideas on backwards terminology, lots of it aviation, (some of it punctuated with his usual profanities).