AOPA Cardinal Awarded - Longview, TX

I got the email about the same time I saw this. Bummer, I was hoping.

Maybe next year.

Did you ever wonder what the scoop was with all the other AOPA planes. I wish they would do a story on them. Like what happened to the WACO?? How about the Nearly new 172???

And maybe also provide a handy mechanism for the winners to hold on to them. Maybe BoA could provide a zero interest loan for the taxes.... HA!
 
silver-eagle said:
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Did you ever wonder what the scoop was with all the other AOPA planes. I wish they would do a story on them. Like what happened to the WACO?? How about the Nearly new 172???

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I tried to search it out for you on AOPA, but they did run a story a year or two back in one of the magazines- most of the planes got sold. One of them seemed like a lemon.
 
They list a bunch of them in this article: http://www.aopa.org/members/files/pilot/2005/sweeps0512.html

2002-2003 Centennial of Flight Waco

Mark Zeller, of The Woodlands, Texas, (near Houston) went to the hangar daily after winning our restored 1940 Waco UPF-7 biplane just to admire it, but then he discovered that insurance for a nontailwheel pilot would be $8,000 a year. That and other costs meant he had to sell. His kids will use the Waco's sale profits for college. When new owner James Fox, of St. Paul, Minnesota, was reached by phone his wife was heard to say in the background, "He flies it too much!" He was late for dinner because he had just flown NC29352 (the original 1940 N number). He uses it to unwind after a busy day.
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and one that a friend of mine now owns:
1997 Ultimate Arrow

N97UA was won by a flight instructor in Massachusetts, who sold it to an owner in North Carolina, who sold it to Jason Wolfson in Massachusetts. Then Wolfson's head was turned by a Cirrus, so the Piper Arrow went to Norm Grant for use as a rental and trainer for the A&M Aviation flight school at Clow International Airport in Bolingbrook, Illinois. He's selling, but the price of $217,000 is intentionally high. The price was set intentionally high because he would like to keep it and hopes it won't sell, but he won't walk away from a nice profit, either. He has added an Avidyne EX500 multifunction display and enough LoPresti Boom Beam lights to make it look like a Boeing 747.
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He no longer has it based at 1C5, though.
 
That Waco was a beautiful airplane too. I worked at the FBO where it stopped over for the night. Got to talk to the pilot and help push the airplane into our hanger the day before the surprise delivery. He wouldn't tell us who or where exactly it was going though. Still pretty cool!
 
silver-eagle said:
I got the email about the same time I saw this. Bummer, I was hoping.

Maybe next year.

Did you ever wonder what the scoop was with all the other AOPA planes. I wish they would do a story on them. Like what happened to the WACO?? How about the Nearly new 172???

And maybe also provide a handy mechanism for the winners to hold on to them. Maybe BoA could provide a zero interest loan for the taxes.... HA!
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In Aug 2006 I saw the Millenium Mooney sitting forlornly off to the side at KMIC. Sans engine and with buckled underbelly, the story was the owner made a gear up landing. Then, after it had come out of mx, he taxied head on into a hanger.
 
Richard said:
In Aug 2006 I saw the Millenium Mooney sitting forlornly off to the side at KMIC. Sans engine and with buckled underbelly, the story was the owner made a gear up landing. Then, after it had come out of mx, he taxied head on into a hanger.
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Ouch! Aren't there laws against such habitual abuse?
 
Richard said:
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kevin47881 said:
As Ron White is known to say: "You can't fix stupid".
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Now hang on. I said this is the story I remember hearing. I cannot vouch for the story but I can back up my observations. And my observations did match/coincide with the story. Who did what I don't know.

I'm saying this because I don't want that pilot beating me up because I made it look like he's too stoopit to fly. :rolleyes:
 
gprellwitz said:
Yeah, Norm still owns it, AFAIK. He's no longer based at Clow, though. I'm not surprised that he contacted Phil directly; he frequently corresponds with him. In fact, Norm used to the the ASN volunteer at Clow until he asked me to take over.
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Funny, I read about this airplane today in AOPA Online.

http://www.aopa.org/aircraft/articles/2008/080313security.html

Oh, I guess that was posted already above.

I'm not sure what I think of the story though, seems to me like they were being unreasonably suspicious. Others here have flown their small airplanes into O'Hare...
 
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Everskyward said:
Funny, I read about this airplane today in AOPA Online.

http://www.aopa.org/aircraft/articles/2008/080313security.html

Oh, I guess that was posted already above.

I'm not sure what I think of the story though, seems to me like they were being unreasonably suspicious. Others here have flown their small airplanes into O'Hare...
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In fact Norm has flown into O'Hare (though it was in a 172, not his Arrow), and it was coordinated with a friend of his in the tower.
 
Hmmmm. Frequently corresponds with Phil and the lucky winner of the sweepstakes airplane. Hmmmm...
 
AWACSEng said:
Hmmmm. Frequently corresponds with Phil and the lucky winner of the sweepstakes airplane. Hmmmm...
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gprellwitz said:
Nice try, but he wasn't the winner. Bought it one or two steps down the chain of owners.
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So he makes the winners an offer they can't refuse. Is that how you ASN Volunteers work? :dunno::dunno:;);););););)
 
Grant, the Hmmmmms were my poorly executed atempt at sarcasm. No offense to your friend if that's the way it came accross. On another note, does the fact that this aircraft was refurbished by the AOPA machine increase it's value, or does the mere fact it is refurbed give it the increase?
 
AWACSEng said:
Grant, the Hmmmmms were my poorly executed atempt at sarcasm. No offense to your friend if that's the way it came accross. On another note, does the fact that this aircraft was refurbished by the AOPA machine increase it's value, or does the mere fact it is refurbed give it the increase?
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Oh, I know. I should have put a ;) in there myself.

I think the AOPA name might add to the value, plus the documentation produced in the magazine during the refurb project. OTOH, it's now so custom that it can be awfully expensive to work on it! The fact that it's an AOPA refurb can be a double-edged sword. He tells me that the engine, though near TBO, is running extremely strongly, and his mechanic thinks it not too unlikely that he could go 200% of TBO. He's added a few things since AOPA worked on it, so I think he's probably way underwater on this. As long as he's flying it and enjoying it, though, so what?
 
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