Alaska is it still the wild west

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Their was a time in Alaska flying aircraft without a pilots cert. or aircraft flying that had not had a annual inspection in years were flying. Is that kind of aviation still going on or is that a thing of the past?
 
Go find out,great trip if you fly the highway Alaska aviation is different and fun.
 
Still going on.

Not according to every one I know, Two of my friends up there have been ramp check three times each, all at remote fields.

the state police and the state game departments just got a fleet of PA-18-180s to patrol with.
 
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Not according to every one I know, Two of my friends up there have been ramp check three times each, all at remote fields.

the state police and the state game departments just got a fleet of PA-18-180s to patrol with.

Don't believe that at all. You have two friends??
 
why do you propose this is limited to alaska ?
 
Lived here 20 years, never been ram checked. Forest service rangers will bring there federal badge out and slap you for almost anything they can. Everyone I know plays by the book. That's not to say everyone does. Like Jeff says "why do you propose this is limited to Alaska"
 
I only flew in Alaska for a year but everyone I met was pretty much a straight shooter when it came to flying. I'm sure you see some interesting things as you get further away from the major cities but it was a great place to fly. I actually hope to go back for a flying job as soon as I meet the 135 mins.


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I knew of just as many people in the lower 48 flying without a certificate as I knew of in Alaska.

I also knew of two people in Alaska that had their airplanes taken away from them for not having a certificate. And possibly other "alleged" violations that may not have been aviation related.
 
Alaska is wild in other ways but I've never met an uncertificated pilot (that I knew of)

In Bethel I got ramp checked half a dozen times in the last 6 months of my tenure there.
 
Some guys watch too many reality TV shows. Alaskan for 47 years. Pilot for half of that. Aviation is more common and more practiced in Alaska that anywhere I know of. It's a big and sometimes hostile place and the aircraft accident rate reflects that. That's brought more FAA presence there than any other place I know of. The general state of the fleet in AK is probably better than average for the country. Parts houses are easy to find. Mechanics are plentiful. Excellent pilot training is available. Are there dumbasses here? Yes, as there are everywhere, but the ratio of pilots in the population is high and the service industry for those pilots is strong, and the FAA and State make efforts to improve air safety and means they're ever present.
 
I knew of just as many people in the lower 48 flying without a certificate as I knew of in Alaska.

I also knew of two people in Alaska that had their airplanes taken away from them for not having a certificate. And possibly other "alleged" violations that may not have been aviation related.
So what other States would have as many people flying without a certificate?:confused:
 
Not according to every one I know, Two of my friends up there have been ramp check three times each, all at remote fields.

the state police and the state game departments just got a fleet of PA-18-180s to patrol with.

I can't speak about the OP, but I do know of one guy that was hired by the State Patrol to do nothing but BFR's, IPC's, and training for the state patrol and all he flies in are C172's and PA18's. He was also getting his float rating at a local school of mine so he can do float training as well.
 
So what other States would have as many people flying without a certificate?:confused:

Not Louisiana!! Absolutely not!! Nooo siree bob!! Everyone down here does it by the book. No reason to start ramp checking down here. None at all. I sure don't want to see any FAA guys wasting their time. In fact, just forget about the entire Southeast.
 
Alaska is wild in other ways but I've never met an uncertificated pilot (that I knew of)...

I've been flying for over 45 years and I have never asked to see, nor actually seen, another pilots certificate. But I have known of, through hearsay, maybe half a dozen pilots who supposedly never got anything more than a student license and none of them were from Alaska.
 
I have been ramp-checked once in 20-some years and 8000-something hours, and I sort of invited that by having some obvious primer-paint wing surfaces from a recent repair. GA piston non-revenue flights are just not that big a target. Who knows how many people have no license? Furthermore, who cares? It doesn't bother me in the least what people choose to do.

I keep my paperwork in order primarily because I'm not a risk taker (read: coward) and I don't operate any type of vehicle without a good amount of insurance coverage. Insurance requires legal operation. OTOH if you're a person willing to fly without insurance, then for all practical purposes you are allowed to operate with no regulations whatsoever.
 
... OTOH if you're a person willing to fly without insurance, then for all practical purposes you are allowed to operate with no regulations whatsoever.

I don't know how true it is but I've been told that many pilots in Alaska don't carry insurance. I'd imagine that insurance that would cover regularly landing on gravel bars would be expensive.
 
I don't know how true it is but I've been told that many pilots in Alaska don't carry insurance. I'd imagine that insurance that would cover regularly landing on gravel bars would be expensive.
many pilots everywhere don't carry insurance
 
Right, I guess I should have said many more
 
I had liability insurance for about 6 years then the price doubled and no more. Alaska has the FAA just like every where, they do show up in out of the way locations!
 
Right, I guess I should have said many more
and that goes at all ends of the spectrum. A friend of mine has insurance on his super cub and a separate policy on its floats, but he dropped the coverage on his P51 when its deductible went over $150k.
 
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