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I’m in, but you’ll have to move to Chicago area (and go halfsies on a big hangar)
 
I think you’d want four owners. One for each engine. I was all gaga until I saw the location of the little wheel. Now feeling a little sick.

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Is this the one that most of the moving parts are pneumatically controlled? They had one of these at Oshkosh a few years ago and the owner said that tracking down all of the air leaks was REALLY fun.

Super interesting airplane. I can't begin to imagine the fuel burn!
 
I say buy it! Each of you can be responsible for two engines and also splitting the other costs. Might make it easier to digest! :p
 
This ad definitely hits many of my airplane ad picture pet peeves. 17 pictures. Almost all of them are either the same or basically the same. No close ups of anything. Only one of the interior, and it's just a row of seats. No picture of the cockpit or panel.
 
Steve Costello said:
I can't begin to imagine the fuel burn!
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I don't know, I imagine it's not really too bad (compared to other similar-sized airplanes, of course). A 290-hp IO-540 probably burns what, 15 gph in cruise? So that's 60-ish gph total. Sure, a lot compared to a 172, but a lot less than a King Air. Cessna 421s are in the mid-40's to 50 gph range in cruise, and they have a lot fewer seats. I am sure, of course, that it's going a lot slower than either of those, though.
 
Friend of mine used to own one. Interesting airplane. Mind you, he made his political stance fairly clear....
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In his younger days, he owned a largish airplane in the Caribbean and the DEA suspected him of transporting illegal cargoes. By the time he bought the Heron, though, he was retired and living in Oregon. He'd bought the plane as a disassembled project in the UK and had it brought to the US. Suspicious Customs folks basically tore the plane apart...cutting open the fabric areas, etc. Added a bit of time to his restoration process. IIRC, he said the plane had been one of the transports in the royal's flight.

Note how low the cockpit is, vs. your typical four-engined airliner.
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Ron Wanttaja
 
Looks like a bargain! You can't even buy a new 172 for $249,000. :D
 
So how do you do engine out practice, shut down 2 engines on the same side?:p
 
texasclouds said:
Load that puppy up with low time multi pilots and hit the skies.
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How many can you get to log PIC at once?

NordicDave said:
I'd buy it just for the look on the DPE's face when she's taxied-up for my multi check ride.
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Unfortunately the DPE has to be authorized for specific multi airplanes…can’t remember exactly how that works, but odds are the DPE would know what you’re bringing.

Nice thought, though!
 
Completely impractical. I love it.

If you ever have a couple hours to kill at the Winnipeg airport, there is a new air museum within walking distance of the main terminal that has a really cool collection of old De Havilland aircraft (among others).
 
Interesting,had enough trouble affording a standard twin with two motors. Would be fun ,take all your pilot friends for a ride. Can’t even imagine what insurance would be,if you could get someone to insure it.
 
Single pilot four engine aircraft. That will keep you on your toes.
 
Mtns2Skies said:
https://www.controller.com/listing/for-sale/219647825/1954-dehavilland-dh-114-piston-twin-aircraft

How cool would this be??? 4x IO-540's... I had no idea this existed, though it reminds me of the Cessna 620 (310 x2 which had 4 engines as well). @kaiser let's go halfsies.

@Pilawt any info on the Dehavilland DH-114?

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Holy crap! What a nice early Christmas surprise! Had no idea this thing existed, I always thought the only light four engine plane was the 620 which realistically doesn't even look that great. This thing is awesome
 
Brad Z said:
Single pilot four engine aircraft. That will keep you on your toes.
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One could argue an engine failure and something like this is less dramatic that is something with only two engines..

And an edit to my post above, there was one other four engine small light plane that was a pusher but it doesn't really count
 
Wouldn’t the chance of an engine failure in a four engine plane be 230%?

Is it really smart to fly an airplane carrying the name of a fictional submarine?

The POH is a little suspicious. The cruise checklist includes “engines 1 and 4: identify, verify, feather.”

Insert more bad jokes here.
 
**there's a photo on the listing of it taxing with only engines one and four operating, this is not the first time I've seen four engine aircraft taxi with only the outboards running. Previous examples were Dash 7, among others

Why? If anything I would assume you want to keep the inboards running to not have the outboards hanging out over potential fod damage and to limit thrust and maneuvering issues on the ground
 
Tantalum said:
**there's a photo on the listing of it taxing with only engines one and four operating, this is not the first time I've seen four engine aircraft taxi with only the outboards running. Previous examples were Dash 7, among others

Why? If anything I would assume you want to keep the inboards running to not have the outboards hanging out over potential fod damage and to limit thrust and maneuvering issues on the ground
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More differential thrust for steering.

B-17 guys could actually back up using forward thrust on the outboard engines.
 
iamtheari said:
The POH is a little suspicious. The cruise checklist includes “engines 1 and 4: identify, verify, feather.”
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What was the mission of the airplane originally? I’m guessing some sort of long range/duration patrol.
 
MauleSkinner said:
What was the mission of the airplane originally? I’m guessing some sort of long range/duration patrol.
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I was being sarcastic about the checklist. But I think the original mission was to fill the regional airliner gap when the mainliners were moving up from DC-3s to Constellations. And/or to keep aircraft mechanics employed in the post-war period.
 
MauleSkinner said:
Unfortunately the DPE has to be authorized for specific multi airplanes…can’t remember exactly how that works, but odds are the DPE would know what you’re bringing.

Nice thought, though!
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I was led to believe that this changed to needing 5 hours PIC in type a few years back, and when I did a bit of searching it didn't turn up anything that contradicts that. At one point in time I was hoping to do an ATP checkride in an unusual type which would fall into the same category as this Heron, which is that it's fun to think about but not terribly practical. Helicopters still appear to require some additional authorization.
 
DaleB said:
And that Mooney can carry how many people again?
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</sarc> let me ask the guys up the road in Woodland, I heard the last lawsuit finally settled </sarc>

No one needs a slow plane with decent useful load...
 
mondtster said:
I was led to believe that this changed to needing 5 hours PIC in type a few years back, and when I did a bit of searching it didn't turn up anything that contradicts that. At one point in time I was hoping to do an ATP checkride in an unusual type which would fall into the same category as this Heron, which is that it's fun to think about but not terribly practical. Helicopters still appear to require some additional authorization.
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I’m not in that part of the examiner world, but @tonycondon would probably know.
 
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