1994 Socata TB9 For Sale

SixPapaCharlie

SixPapaCharlie

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If anyone is interested or knows someone that might be, let me know.
It is a solid plane. No squawks, no damage history. All logs, always hangared.

Performance is on par with a C-172 but visibility is incredible.
Would be ideal for a trainer, building hours, solid IFR trainer.

I have enjoyed it a great deal. Time to upgrade.

Thanks

http://www.trade-a-plane.com/detail...+Piston/1994/Socata/TB-9+Tampico/2046246.html

P.S.
I should have picked a different user name for POA :)



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Always hangared? I thought it was a parks college plane. They kept their planes hangarerd all the time?

Not doubting you, just find that interesting.
 
RalphInCA said:
Always hangared? I thought it was a parks college plane. They kept their planes hangarerd all the time?

Not doubting you, just find that interesting.
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Interesting point. It was "Always hangared" according to the person from whom we purchased it (He bought it from PC)

But... makes sense. I now no longer believe it when I read it.
I see this on every plane for sale ad and a lot of these planes are 40 years old. How could the seller possibly know?
 
AdamZ said:
What are you looking to purchase? Also whats the useful load?
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The scales which hold a Trinidad in one side and an SR22 on the other
are tipping heavily in favor of the SR22

We test flew a Trinidad and now my dad is out looking at the SR22s and I am helping with research but staying quiet. These are beyond my pay grade.

I personally am working toward my own older, cheaper, Way cheaper insurance plane (Tiger, 177 or possibly Sierra) Those all work on paper for me. I have more research to do though.

Useful load of the TB9 is ~800 lbs
 
What do you see for cruise speeds and fuel burn?
How well do tall people fit in them?
 
UngaWunga said:
How well do tall people fit in them?
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I'm 6'00" and fit comfortably on the passenger side. Bryan's right that the visibility is very good.

Ergonomics of this aircraft are well done. Like a modern car where the gear shift is comfortably at your right hand, so are many controls like throttle, mixture, trim, flaps, etc.

Speeds and loads are similar to a Cherokee 140.

With the two of us, Brian as PF, we were always off the ground around the 1000-1200 foot mark of the runway. From what I remember, this aircraft trimmed out well and flew hands off just fine.
 
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UngaWunga said:
What do you see for cruise speeds and fuel burn?
How well do tall people fit in them?
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Yep I think of Mike being a tall ish guy

Book says (I think) 9 GPH
I did an average over two 300mi flights and came up with 8.5
I always plan 10

The cruise is a zippy 95 kts :) (It is a trainer)

I suspect we priced it correctly.
3 people coming to see it. 1 flying up commercial from Houston

Either it is going to sell quickly or I am about to learn some new fact about selling an airplane like for every x responses .0001 are legit or something.

Edit: if you are 6'3, you would probably want one of those halo headsets to reduce having your head against the ceiling.

FWIW it is slow and only carries around 800 lbs but it is a solid plane and has hauled this crew all over Texas and Oklohoma comfortably.

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SixPapaCharlie said:
Yep I think of Mike being a tall ish guy

Book says (I think) 9 GPH
I did an average over two 300mi flights and came up with 8.5
I always plan 10

The cruise is a zippy 95 kts :) (It is a trainer)

I suspect we priced it correctly.
3 people coming to see it. 1 flying up commercial from Houston

Either it is going to sell quickly or I am about to learn some new fact about selling an airplane like for every x responses .0001 are legit or something.

Edit: if you are 6'3, you would probably want one of those halo headsets to reduce having your head against the ceiling.

FWIW it is slow and only carries around 800 lbs but it is a solid plane and has hauled this crew all over Texas and Oklohoma comfortably.

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That looks like it should go way faster than 95kts cruise with a 160 hp...a Cessna that doesn't look nearly as aerodynamic is 105-110?
 
I am 6'3 285lbs and I have flown in Bryans plane, I was reasonably comfortable.
 
mrkbbd said:
That looks like it should go way faster than 95kts cruise with a 160 hp...a Cessna that doesn't look nearly as aerodynamic is 105-110?
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It is very big on the inside. The body is very wide.

I believe the TB9 cabin width is around 50 inches as compared to 39 on the 172 (don't quote me on those numbers.) I think that causes a lot of drag.
 
I sent the link for your plane to my wife with the suggestion that she buy it for me for Christmas. The reply was very simple:

"nope"

Time to dig into my super secret special money stash. (I.e rob the local bank)

I would love to buy your plane, especially since I went to Parks. Although the they were flying C152s back then.
 
He sees 95 kts. I get about 105 in mine. The previous owner let the prop out a bit...2/3 of the way from climb to a cruise prop. Mine does not climb as well...naturally.

I'm 6'1" and a BIG guy. I lean the seat back a bit and my Zulus don't touch the roof. Like Bryan, I see 8.5 GPH. I flight plan at 8.5 and plan on having an hour in tanks when I land. Its nice being able to fit two big guys like me in the front seat and not rub elbows.

Jim
Socata Tampico (from Embry-Riddle) Owner
 
Are you saying 95 indicated or 95 true? What do you true around 7 thousand feet? I suspect it's better than 95.
 
jesse said:
Are you saying 95 indicated or 95 true? What do you true around 7 thousand feet? I suspect it's better than 95.
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Indicated only.
7 thousand feet? what's that? I am in Texas 4000 feet is the nosebleed seats :)

I may be flying to Tulsa next weekend. I will climb way up and check the math.
 
SixPapaCharlie said:
Indicated only.
7 thousand feet? what's that? I am in Texas 4000 feet is the nosebleed seats :)

I may be flying to Tulsa next weekend. I will climb way up and check the math.
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What does the POH say? Indicated is not how fast your airplane is going and you're going to do much better than indicated in a normally aspirated around 7,000 ft. Don't discount what your airplane can do when you're trying to sell it :)
 
jesse said:
What does the POH say? Indicated is not how fast your airplane is going and you're going to do much better than indicated in a normally aspirated around 7,000 ft. Don't discount what your airplane can do when you're trying to sell it :)
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Well the POH says cruise speed is 123 kts
but I think that is new off the line at sea level at er 61 degrees or whatever the number is.
 
I never understood these calcs.
Seems when studying for the written IIRC it was based on density alt not pressure. I could be wrong but I thought that was how they were done.

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That is 123 MPH not Knots...

I'm confused about how 2700 HP, 70% can give you two different fuel flows between best economy and best power settings. Is it all in the leaning? Both spots are producing the same POWER...
 
SixPapaCharlie said:
The scales which hold a Trinidad in one side and an SR22 on the other
are tipping heavily in favor of the SR22

We test flew a Trinidad and now my dad is out looking at the SR22s and I am helping with research but staying quiet. These are beyond my pay grade.

I personally am working toward my own older, cheaper, Way cheaper insurance plane (Tiger, 177 or possibly Sierra) Those all work on paper for me. I have more research to do though.

Useful load of the TB9 is ~800 lbs
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I've never flown in the Tampico but I suspect its the same cabin as a Tobago and a Trinnie in which I have flown. The cabin IMHO is just fantastic. Incredibly ergonomic, comfortable and great viz Best of luck in the sale. The cabin alone can sell that plane.
 
AdamZ said:
I've never flown in the Tampico but I suspect its the same cabin as a Tobago and a Trinnie in which I have flown. The cabin IMHO is just fantastic. Incredibly ergonomic, comfortable and great viz Best of luck in the sale. The cabin alone can sell that plane.
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Identical airframe. Different motors and bells and whistles

I wish more planes had this layout. Everything is where your hands naturally lay. There is no need to reach for anything.
 
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SixPapaCharlie said:
Identical airframe. Different motors and bells and whistles

I wish more planes had this layout. Everything is where your hands naturally lay. There is no need to reach for anything.
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Yep, I sometimes fly 547PC at of FRG. Slow bird but nice layout. Only other airplane that has the same easy flow is Cirrus.
 
And Sold!

I guess it was priced right.
An A380 pilot bought it for his son who is closing in on his PPL and wants to be a CFI. He wanted a solid IFR trainer.

Interesting deal. Instead of a prebuy he is going to have an annual done on his dime. He said if it comes back with issues the deal is off but we get an annual out of it.

The plane is really solid so I think it will work out.

A little bittersweet. I am kinda gonna miss it.
But the future should provide more utility.
 
Awesome. Time to upgrade to a TB-21.
 
I had my money on the 21 but Dad is committed to an SR22 at this point
I will fly that for a bit but I am buying my own plane as well. I can't really afford all that goes with the 22 plus I am damn stubborn and have to have my own plane.
 
And regarding your name....

You do realize you can make arrangements to keep the N#? That's what John from Atlanta has been doing with his Charlene's.
 
I think I actually like that it s going to change.
It automatically puts me into the POA witness protection program.
 
You have to excited about fling a SR22 its a nice airplane.
I don't understand why a experimental was never considered?:goofy:
 
He looked at RV10 actually but there were a couple nuances he wasnt crazy about.
He can be pretty picky. "Its gotta have a yoke, not a stick" was uttered a few times ;)
 
side note: the buyer was actually from craigslist not the main sites.
Maybe start there first before paying to list on TAP.
 
SixPapaCharlie said:
He looked at RV10 actually but there were a couple nuances he wasnt crazy about.
He can be pretty picky. "Its gotta have a yoke, not a stick" was uttered a few times ;)
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You can't call that little hand controller sticking out of the side wall a yoke :)
I will agree that the pricing is getting very close between the two and if you can afford to service the SR 22 its a great way to go.
 
RalphInCA said:
Always hangared? I thought it was a parks college plane. They kept their planes hangarerd all the time?

Not doubting you, just find that interesting.
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Park's always kept their planes on the ramp unless they were in MX as far as I can remember.
 
Ok..
Having dinner with my dad now and he says "it would be cool if we could keep the tail number for our next plane"

How does one do that?
 
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