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Thank you. I'd like to think that this thread can set others on the right track as well, not just me. It helped a lot to understand that in the final moments, when it's time to round out/flare and touchdown, this is equal parts a "feel" thing as it is a procedure/technique thing. My...

Thank you for breaking it down like that. Very helpful. I'll aim to keep the RPM at 1500 max. I did notice on the last few landings that when I had the power set at beyond 1500 on final to maintain glide path, we floated passed the touchdown point and I suspect that's because high power...

Ok. So there are two techniques now: 1. Keep it like a normal landing except that approach speed should be reduced. Maintain 61 knots approach speed to an aiming point 400 feet before the touchdown point. When about 20 feet above the runway and on glide path to the aiming point, pull the...

You're saying aim right at the touchdown point? So the aiming point and touchdown point are the SAME point? And just chop the power when 30 feet above the aiming/touchdown point and you'll touch down at the touchdown point? Ok, well I have tried that and at 60 knots approach speed I will...

And if the examiner specifies the point for me, say the runway numbers or a certain taxiway intersection, then my technique no longer works because I am only used to doing it by pulling the power when I'm crossing the beginning of the runway. So how do I account for the fact that the specified...

There is a wealth of information being shared freely on here which is why I'm asking. He showed me these different techniques because I kept asking him about it and we tried it different ways to find a way that works for me but none of the techniques stands out as the clear winner. He is...

No. When I asked for a good technique to accomplish the short field for the ACS, you referenced the obstacle clearinging technique in the POH. I was asking why would I use that technique if there is not obstacle being simulated in the ACS.

I get the distinction between procedure and technique. The ACS procedure only has 2 essential parts to it: 1. Follow the manufacturers approach speed and configuration (61 knots and full flaps) 2. Touch down at or within 200 feet of a specified point How you accomplish the transition from...

Why would I use the obstacle clearing technique if there is no obstacle on the ACS? The short-field in the POH is denoted as a procedure by the way, not a technique.

I understand that. So then what is a good standard technique to get the job done in a C172 in a no wind condition?

Ok so how do you do your landings without using an aiming point? If you were a CFI and were training a student, would you tell them to "just make it work" or would you describe to them some basic steps?

Here is my understanding of a normal landing: 1. On final, full flaps and pitch for 65 knots approach speed. 2. Pitch to maintain 65 knots and adjust power to maintain a glide path down to an aiming point. 3. Hold this aiming point at a fixed spot on your windshield. 4. When about 20 feet...

How do you do this without using an aiming point? What kind of aircraft are you in and can you describe it play by play? Yes, I get not getting too fixated on a procedure. However, there should at least be a procedure for a calm wind day as a baseline. But everyone does it differently. You...

There has to be a procedure, at least for a no wind situation. I get having to adjust the procedure for varying condition, but nobody can even describe the procedure for calm wind day in a regular C172.

Here's a couple conflicts: 1. POH tells you how to perform the maneuver so as to clear a 50 foot obstacle, but on the ACS you are not clearing a real or simulated 50 foot obstacle. There is no obstacle on the ACS at all. 2. ACS wants you to touch down at or within 200 feet of a specified...

I'm able to hit the touchdown point, but not consistently since I don't know what the hell I'm doing. Once I start getting down closer to the runway I just start juggling the throttle and pitch to make it work out. If I had to explain to someone what I'm doing, where I'm looking, how I'm...

I thought we already established that we aren't following the POH procedure on the ACS for the short-field landing.

I get it. I'm not hung up on what "minimum float" means, although the FAA should define the term if they put the term forward. We as a community have had to define it for them. I still don't know how to perform the maneuver. I'm in a 1980 C172P, so the most generic and basic GA aircraft...

That's helpful. Thank you. So once I correct for this, it would just be a matter of holding this approach speed into ground effect and figuring out how far the plane will float until touchdown? And then adjusting my aim point accordingly so that I touch down at my spot every time? What should...