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  1. roncachamp

    Decomissioned VORs - why are they still on the charts?

    The colored airway network was based on A/N ranges with an assist by NDBs. VORs and Victor airways replaced A/N ranges and colored airways, the NDBs remained.
  2. roncachamp

    Decomissioned VORs - why are they still on the charts?

    Nice try. The route is US 101, it's unusable by helos and boats even with the bridge intact.
  3. roncachamp

    Decomissioned VORs - why are they still on the charts?

    Bad analogy. If the bridge is demolished the route is unusable by everyone. Decommission the VOR and the airways are still usable by those suitably equipped.
  4. roncachamp

    Decomissioned VORs - why are they still on the charts?

    ATC can't assign it to those who lack the ability to navigate it and changing them to GPS routes and turning the dead VORs into WPs doesn't solve that "problem".
  5. roncachamp

    Decomissioned VORs - why are they still on the charts?

    What is that problem?
  6. roncachamp

    TGIFS Thank God its Football Season

    The question was; "What is the evidence that police are killing blacks at an alarming rate?" I'm looking for reliable numbers.
  7. roncachamp

    TGIFS Thank God its Football Season

    I'd like to hear some of them state, specifically and in detail, just what it is they're protesting. What is black oppression? What is the evidence that police are killing blacks at an alarming rate? How does that rate compare to non-blacks?
  8. roncachamp

    TGIFS Thank God its Football Season

    What's the evidence of that? The protests began before Trump was elected. I'd like to hear some of them state, specifically and in detail, just what it is they're protesting.
  9. roncachamp

    Decomissioned VORs - why are they still on the charts?

    T-routes do appear on sectionals. Why don't they convert Victor airways to T-routes when VORs are shutdown/decommissioned? I don't know, perhaps because there's no immediate need to. They're just labels, it'll probably happen eventually.
  10. roncachamp

    TGIFS Thank God its Football Season

    Perhaps you should give Lingerie Football an ogle.
  11. roncachamp

    Cleared to takeoff, Proceed on course.

    Dude, we've been over this already.
  12. roncachamp

    Cleared to takeoff, Proceed on course.

    It would have been nice if the OP had identified the airport or provided the complete noise abatement procedure.
  13. roncachamp

    Cleared to takeoff, Proceed on course.

    Because it's a turn in the opposite direction.
  14. roncachamp

    Cleared to takeoff, Proceed on course.

    True, you cannot fly straight and turn at the same time, but irrelevant.
  15. roncachamp

    Cleared to takeoff, Proceed on course.

    "Proceed on course" in this case assumes a right turn, you said so yourself. The noise abatement procedure requires a 10 degree left turn. You cannot do both.
  16. roncachamp

    Cleared to takeoff, Proceed on course.

    "Proceed on course" in this case assumes a right turn, you said so yourself. The noise abatement procedure requires a left turn. You cannot do both.
  17. roncachamp

    Cleared to takeoff, Proceed on course.

    No he doesn't. All he has to do is issue an instruction that conflicts with it and you already confirmed that he did.
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