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Foreflight looks at zero fuel weight, as well. Looks like we would be in the clear, though it would be close...https://d.pr/i/lf1VqE.

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That's good info. We often wouldn't be flying at capacity, but we need to be prepared for the scenario when we are, which is why I want to make sure the Excel would be capable of accomplishing this.

Thanks. Regarding Hawthorne's runway, they're at 4,884 ft. Here's the Conklin field length data for the Excel...https://d.pr/i/xe6135. So it's getting a little tight, but seems doable? Though as someone else mentioned, would probably need to ferry to LAX on wet days. (Not too frequent in LA.)

They use historical wind data. See...https://d.pr/i/fZJnhG.

Yeah, I was hoping that maybe was the explanation, and that I'm just being too conservative. What do other folks think? Separately, is 41,000 a reasonable assumption to be using for altitude?

Yeah, that's a reflection of the 313 gal (2,111 lbs) of reserve fuel that I'm budgeting for. Is that too much? For background, I'm assuming we'd want 1.25 hours of fuel burn for our reserve. I believe that's equivalent to about 313 gal of fuel for the Citation Excel, but it's possible that my...

According to Conklin & de Decker, the Citation Excel's range at full capacity is 1,449 nm...https://d.pr/i/iz4pnG. However, I'm testing this out using significantly shorter routes in Foreflight, and I'm running into issues on weight. I'm trying to figure out what can explain this. Here are...

Applies specifically to commercial activity, I believe. Even more here... https://nbaa.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/fet-guide-2020.pdf

Sorry. I edited the original post. Here's a good article in case you're looking to learn more... https://www.paramountbusinessjets.com/blog/private-jet-charter-taxes-usa/

I know federal excise tax (FET) is still charged for flights between the United States and Canada, if the point in Canada is within the 250 mile zone. A few random questions on this... 1) Is FET charged on customs user fees, INS fees, and APHIS fees? 2) Is FET charged on Canadian airport...

That's a fair point. Only problem is that LAX to, say, VNY or BUR is a lot more than an additional few minutes. With no traffic, which is rarely the case in LA, that's a 30 minute drive. With heavy traffic, that can easily be a 90 minute drive. So for someone coming from the south, it can...

I hear ya, but my point is, we're being charged the same whether we use VNY versus HHR versus LAX versus whatever else. So that's not a factor here.

It will mostly be a mix, which is why the centrality of LAX (and HHR, if it works) is pretty appealing. Of course, if we have particular trips where it's mainly just passengers coming from either the south or north, we can always adjust accordingly and use one of the other airports we've been...

A lot of the responses so far have been about road traffic, but I'm even more so curious to get people's perspective on potential flight issues, and the associated potential for delays, to be aware of at LAX. Again, our outbound flights would be early morning departures (~6:30 AM) on Fridays...

Yeah, I have nothing against BUR and VNY. It's just that when you potentially have some of your passengers coming from the South Bay or even Orange County, BUR and VNY might as well be up in San Francisco. LAX and HHR are definitely the most central, in my opinion, for the greater LA metro...

Interesting. I've been mostly based in LA for the past six years, and my experience is a bit different. I've found that it's a pretty late-rising city, and if you're on the roads before 7:00 AM, traffic is typically pretty reasonable. Especially if you're being driven to LAX from the north...

We'd be using charter operators and/or card programs for flights. Regarding LAX... • I was hoping that at the early morning hours we'd be flying out - and, to a lesser extent, the hours we'd be flying back in - we'd be able to avoid some of the issues typically associated with LAX. Do folks...

Thanks, @jayhawk74. Do you think there would be delays even at the hours we'd be flying in and out?

I'm curious what folks see as the pros and cons of using the FBOs at LAX, from both a flight standpoint and a passenger experience standpoint. Our outbound flights would be early morning departures (~6:30 AM) on Fridays and Saturdays, and our return flights would be late evening returns (~8:00...