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Is there a reason they didn't bother to finish the walls on the inside and put in insulation? I'm kind of assuming there is no A/C.

I could also be an assembly issue. Improper torque, either too much, or too little could lead to a bolt failure. I imagine it could be a cascading effect as well. Lose one bolt and the others will follow.

Did you not see the crash site? I IS lost entirely. There is no rebuilding it. They can build a replica, that is all. That airplane was saved a long time by somebody. Had Planes of Fame not restored it, somebody somewhere would have done something with it. There is now way it would have been...

We did let them decide and will continue to do so in the future I suspect. Good for them. They resurrected an artifact, had their fun with it and burned it down in a prison yard. Some got to see it fly and now there are pretty pictures and videos. The story ends there though for future generations.

I do think they were wrong for flying it, but not rescue and restoring it. From your sentence above, it sounds like your definition of what is right is unique. Tell us, what is your definition of what's right that is different than everyone else's definition?

Cool, you want to see an airplane fly? So do I. Since you don't care much about originality, build a replica and fly it. Tell me why the last known example of an original interesting piece of American aviation history must fly and why a replica wouldn't be just as good for our amusement? In...

To have feeling and to care is definitely a burden and a curse, I'll give you that.

The point is to start a dialog. What do you think is right to do with one of a kind aviation history and why?

Good job at preserving aviation history for the future. That's OK, THIS generation got to see it fly and that's the only generation that matters. Go ahead, find the data plate and rebuild it. See how many care. Soulless my ass. can you spot the soul in the picture? Just to be clear, I am...

Yeah, screw the children. To hell with the people in the future. Let's do what we want today. :rolleyes: The "greatest" generation is nearly gone, but their kids, the great selfish generation is still around doing whatever the hell they want and screwing future generations in the process. It is...

Then it's not the original, is it?. It would be a replica and that's what they should have been flying all this time, a replica, not the real deal. Other museums around the world that "keep history alive" by continuing to operate old airplanes have a rule- if it's the last one of it's type in...

Somebody forgot to put the plugs in?

What work did you do?

My whole family plays and we're in California. We all learned from my grandparents on my mom's side that were from Wisconsin. My grandparents have passed, so we're down to 4 active players in the family. Just enough for a game.

Ask Ed. He started it. I'm not sure what it's about. How do we know that he didn't just sell his plane to his own corporation with a different address?

I have to figure he has a big pile guns, ammunition and gold in that house. What other legal things do you get all that paranoid about?

I think you're OK with used. The amount of brand new Piper parts you will buy while owning a used Piper is near zero. The Sultans will get pretty much nothing from you. In the nearly 10 years I've owned my Mooney, I have only purchased 2 parts that were sourced from Mooney and one of those I...

Thank you. We really need to bury this anti electric bull crap. Even in most of America that does use coal, electric is still better than burning gas/diesel.

PA-28, bold new graphics, the latest Garmin glass everywhere, diesel engine, composite prop, new cowl and wheel pants, insane price tag. I hate to burst all the hopes, but you heard it here first. ;)

It's turning out to be exactly what I've been saying it was. The F35 is the biggest government boondoggle ever, a shining, stellar example of defense department ineptitude and government contractor waste, a bastard step child born out of bureaucratic committee and corruption, loved by no one...