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So much information in such a small place. I've never been a fan. Yes, I have flown behind one.

Interesting. I never knew about the design flaw. I still love how incredible those machines were in their day. Even incredible by today's standards. One day I might be lucky enough to fly my family around behind a couple of round engine like @Fearless Tower. I just need to make my own luck.

Just don't pick the guy who hasn't flown since the war and has a drinking problem.

Yeah, avoid the water.

And think, it only took 7 pages to get to this point. I'm impressed we made it this far.

Although he does seem to come out swinging. I got cut down early on.

A whole minute? That's impressive.

OP, you can also research how overloaded they flew O-2's (C337 Skymaster) in Vietnam as well as other military aircraft over the years.

Its difficult to have a neutral discussion about certain topics when your comments are linked to a profile.

Turbocharged Saratoga. Cold winter day. 6 people. Bags. 70 gallons of gas. About 300 pounds over, very aft CG. Takeoff was a little longer than normal. Climb was a tad bit slower. Pitch was very sensitive in cruise - as in it would get itself into pitch oscillations without physically holding...

Verbal communication only plays a small part in total. If you come to understand and master non-verbal communication, everything else in life becomes a lot easier. Just look at how often pretty much everything on this board gets misinterpreted. :D

How did your Cirrus training go?

What makes you think I fit into the "masculine" mold? The wind can blow me over. I think you'd be surprised to find that you and I are probably more similar than you think. I just do things I'm good at and stay away from things I can't do. So, you found out someone you work with doesn't like...

Uhhh... apparently there is more than one "red pill." I don't support or condone the MGTOW movement in any way, shape, or form.

What did you expect with a profile picture like that? I don't mind but that's not the type of girl I bring home to mom.

What about Irish cream?

I swear, you all sound exactly like new pilots who are having trouble with their landings. Life's tough now because you can't seem to get it. And then, once you finally do, you'll wonder why you were having trouble in the first place. Get rid of your defeatist attitude.

But, to answer your question OP, the airplane won't be much to handle as a new pilot so long as you understand the proficiency level you'll need to step up to. If you have Cherokee time, you'll be fine. If you expect it to fly exactly like a 180hp Cherokee, you'd be wrong.

:rofl: ...I was thinking it fits 4 people in the back normally, 13 17-year olds from another country.

Well, I guess after mine there's 6 left...