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Let me speak for Tom real quick... How do you make the association it was Tom's fault? Obviously the injured customer knew how to work on a plane and knew the dangers, thus absolving Tom of any responsibility for the injury. Everyone knows Tom knew the dangers so he stayed back, the customer...

Lmao that's classic. I had a few scares but nothing an off field landing wouldn't cure. But they were a couple scary ordeals. I never give up so it wasn't a feeling of I'm gonna die, more like this chit is gonna hurt!! Or... how could you be so stupid lol...

I really hope the guy who got hurt reads this and sees Tom for what he really is.

Here's something that even you can't try to argue against..... Who signs the log books as the mechanic who completed said compression tests? If it's your name Tom, then who on earth could possibly be considered the Task Supervisor? Golly, I think that's you...isn't it? Instead of blaming a...

Yep 100%:rolleyes:

Ahh but the customer knew the best practice so it wasn't Tom's fault.....

Man, you're hard headed. I'm done. Good luck.

Oh I heard that 100% I'm just saying if they wanna play AP, make them sign the paper. That way they don't get paid for making a mistake at your place of business. That's my main point.

He wanted discussion (since he posted) and he got it. Tried to offer a simple way to divert responsibility back to the injured party for future reference and he acts like it isn't a big deal. Should I just not say anything because it will hurt his feelings? This is the Internet. Pull your...

What's your speed and fuel burn? I'm jealous

Don't post your dirty laundry in an effort to direct blame to your customers for getting hurt in your shop. :confused:

Oh my bad, let me know when a guy gets his head chopped off in your shop. Just some blood and stitches is a mole hill. My bad.

Could you not do short field ops and just gain speed while in ground effect to save the tires? That's my thought process anyways lol.

I'm always Ernest and Frank with women. When I'm in New York I'm Ernest... when I'm in Michigan I'm Frank..... lol something like that.. :cool:

I get what your saying, I'm looking at the smaller picture for Tom as well. In a civil court they'd ask what he did to prevent it, a small piece of paper like a JSA would be his most valuable asset. If I knew what he was doing, I'd already have it written. But I don't, I'm just trying to offer a...

You're the task supervisor. It's that simple. If you didn't brief him on the dangers (seems like you did a lot of assuming) then you can be found liable. And the briefing has to be documented or its he said she said. If you had a written consent form or JSA, there would be no issue. However you...

Pleasanton is south a bit, but it's a nice facility and has a courtesy car. I always wanted to land at Stinson, but never did.

I just told you how to take a large chunk of accountability off your shoulders. If they wanna help, have them fill out your JSA. If you need a template or help, I don't mind helping you out.

I'm not a mechanic, but I am a Safety Professional. I'd ask you what is the best practice for this task and was it being followed? I'd also look into complacency, as I'm sure you've done this 1000 times with no issues. There's probably a lot of variables, such as environment (was it hot?)...

You had to of known by posting this you'd catch hell.