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  1. J

    Saratoga, A36, or....?

    You really think a naturally aspirated 310 would be double that of a turbo Lance or Toga? I imagine when it comes to rebuild time 2 NA engines vs a turbo single wouldn’t be too huge of a difference, besides props obviously are double. I guess double the oil changes as well. How about annuals?
  2. J

    Saratoga, A36, or....?

    Well between a 310 NA or a turbo Lance or Toga of the 3 ,in order of most to least, which would be most expensive to maintain? The extra fuel cost of the 310 to me would be worth the extra speed but what about maintenance?
  3. J

    Saratoga, A36, or....?

    https://www.trade-a-plane.com/search?category_level1=Multi+Engine+Piston&make=CESSNA&model=T310P&listing_id=2250966&s-type=aircraft Something like this is pretty cheap too, and low time, and they take trades lol
  4. J

    Saratoga, A36, or....?

    https://www.controller.com/listings/aircraft/for-sale/29533677/1978-cessna-310r Loving that plane ^^^ B58 seems like not many options at all for under $200,000
  5. J

    Saratoga, A36, or....?

    Okay so yes that makes sense too, gets pretty hot over here in the summer.. Sooo.. B58 C310 NA or Turbo Lance T-Tail Saratoga Retrac and Turbo Lets break those into categories, please rate them in order 1 through 4: -How does that list stack speed wise? -How does it stack in fuel consumption...
  6. J

    Saratoga, A36, or....?

    As for my altitudes, I haven’t had the Mooney long and still training in it but my CFI also does contract flying so we are taking the Mooney next week to Kerrville and to Boerne and something like that is typically done at around 6,500-8,500 in this area.
  7. J

    Saratoga, A36, or....?

    That also makes sense yup
  8. J

    Saratoga, A36, or....?

    I see what your saying.. if thats the case then it sounds more and more logical to go the 310 route.. there the extra speed is significant enough to make a difference. So a non turbo 310 should not have issues getting to 180-190 bellow 12,000?
  9. J

    Saratoga, A36, or....?

    I understand that perhaps under 7-8,000 it may not be noticeably faster but surely once you start getting close to 14,000 it should pick up 5-10knots no? Was the toga you bought retractable gear?
  10. J

    Saratoga, A36, or....?

    I’m not really but what’s the metal building contruction world like out that way? I could maybe do a “scouting/sales trip” up there in a few months perhaps if that’s something that happens a lot out there. I’m really not familiar with that area at all as far as construction goes but we are...
  11. J

    Saratoga, A36, or....?

    Well maybe I’ll have to reconsider the Turbo Lance, all factory turbo Lances are T Tails correct? I wish the Lancair had 6 seat planes, I’d love to own one one day, the high approach speeds and dirty flying characteristics seem a little sketchy though.
  12. J

    Saratoga, A36, or....?

    Any idea what numbers would look like at 75%?
  13. J

    Saratoga, A36, or....?

    Based on those charts looks like the turbo toga is around 160kts at 12-13,000 and the NA is 5-10 slower if I'm reading that right.. Heftiger, the turbo lance wont do better than 160kts below oxygen levels?
  14. J

    Saratoga, A36, or....?

    Loving the 310 and the retrac Toga so far. The turbo Toga, how much speed would you gain with the turbo vs NA if you stay around or under 13,000? Need to research the B58 some more. So Heftiger, how has your Turbo Lance experience been with engine cooling and in general?
  15. J

    Saratoga, A36, or....?

    The cabin size of the 340, 414, 421 where the main draws, I just researched them for about an hour or so and they are no longer on my list lol. I believe a Malibu is well out of my price range
  16. J

    Saratoga, A36, or....?

    Is it just because of the pressurization system that things are so expensive to keep that working good or what is it about them?
  17. J

    Saratoga, A36, or....?

    How about some I haven’t heard people say yet but seem to be within reason price wise when looking at all piston twins ascending in price on controller. Baron B55 B60 Duke C414 C340A C421B There is a beautiful 1970 414 on controller for $189,900one engine is about 116 SMOH and the other is...
  18. J

    Saratoga, A36, or....?

    I like the Vtail Bonanzas a lot but between the A36 and the turbo Toga I think I’m heavily leaning towards a very low time turbo Toga. mwagg737 May have started a little something up again though, my goodness that plane looks awesome, reallyyy liking the paint scheme!!! -and what you have to...
  19. J

    Saratoga, A36, or....?

    Also should I be considering anything like a Cessna 310R or some other twin?
  20. J

    Saratoga, A36, or....?

    Well Texas and surrounding states for now, I could make a few trips a year to Mexico as well, the area where we would fly to mainly over there is around 6,500'. My work should eventually take me just about all over the US and perhaps even Canada so I certainly would not mind a turbo, or atleast...
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