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From what I’ve seen on most 70-80’s Lances & Togas you either get a low SMOH time & need to update avionics or high SMOH time & might get some descent avionics but very few with both...unless your willing to increase your budget to 250-300K+...I’ve finally zeroed in on a Saratoga now just seeing...

You have the T Tail? I keep going back and forth on a Lance but hear not so great things about T Tails but they seem most prevalent on market right now. Togas seems to be a good 50-75K more...

You all like this one better? These are the 2 I’ve somewhat narrowed down to right now. Also since I’m new to these markets what do you think reasonable prices are for each?? http://www.controller.com/ListingsDetail/Detail.aspx?lp=CNT&OHID=30175967

Thanks everyone. I’ll be calling Scott tomorrow and see where it goes.

Here you go if this helps... http://www.controller.com/ListingsDetail/Detail.aspx?lp=CNT&OHID=30628157

That’s a question I’ll be asking the broker representing the aircraft when I call tomorrow. Just trying to be prepared in anything I should be asking when calling before I fly to go see in person.

Just for others wondering where I’m coming from up to this point I have either rented or flown my father’s plane so this is my first aircraft purchase. I apologize if I’m asking “tea leave reading questions”. If needed the moderator can delete this post...

Thanks for the great advice, exactly the info I was looking for. I appreciate your thoughtful insight.

Narrowing down my Saratoga search and ran across a possible potential aircraft. Question is MOH was done September 2017 and it only has 6 hours since it was completed. Would that concern anyone? Obviously I’ll need to see in person & review all records and ask why it hasn’t been being flown...

I’m in the exact same situation and have been trying to narrow down options for a month or so. At least for me I think I’m down to a Saratoga RG with an NA engine but would be open to a turbo if low (OH) hours and right price. One thing to also consider between Saratogas & A36s is the useful...

Thanks everyone

Piper Saratoga probably RG, NA engine. Still looking over a few different versions though...Would like to get ballpark insurance rates while doing all my homework right now.

I'm getting into the final stages of getting serious on making offers on a plane. Who do most of you use for aircraft insurance? I'm not sure if it matters but most of the year the plane would be hangered in Florida (Orlando area) and a few months up in Michigan. Thanks!

Thank you very much for the input. As for a Lance, what would be a typical cruise speed & gph? I have not looked at them, but just glancing now they seem like a great deal if their speed isn’t far off a Toga. Any reason in particular they are a fair amount less cost?

The long distance flights for the most part would be myself (commuting to Michigan and Florida for business) and maybe 1 or 2 times a year might include my family (wife and 3 kids- 8,6,2). Local flying is a mixed bag, usually at least 1 other person and possible could be my family or a few...

Thanks. My flying profile will be a lot of local flying (up to 200 NM trips) and then 6-8 long distance round trips (900NM each way) from FL to Michigan. My original thoughts were NA engine and keep going back & forth about FG vs RG...seems I’d save around 30 min flight time on my long legs...

Thanks everyone. The price was just dropped so the broker reached out to me as he knew I had an interest in a Toga. Yes I would definitely be upgrading the panel if I went through with it. The big plus on this one is recent overhaul.

Any thoughts on this plane. Getting more serious now.... http://www.controller.com/ListingsDetail/Detail.aspx?lp=CNT&OHID=29034633 Thanks!

This is one of the planes I've been looking at when making our next purchase. We have narrowed down to either a Saratoga or Bonanza A36. Thanks for the 1st hand thoughts of ownership so far!

Thanks, that makes complete sense. I’ve come from previous owning larger boats & coaches and that applies to them as well. I’ll keep that in mind while on the search!