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  1. HamishTHaggis

    Wings of Hope Fall 2018 Raffle airplane announced

    @TigerGene For what I'd expect to be able to sell the airplane for, I won't come out ahead. Ahead of the current outstanding bill alone, maybe. But overall, pretty sure I'd have been better off renting. It's pretty painful to have a steady flow money into a hangar and insurance for a plane that...
  2. HamishTHaggis

    Wings of Hope Fall 2018 Raffle airplane announced

    I agreed with your reasoning initially. I was wrong.
  3. HamishTHaggis

    Wings of Hope Fall 2018 Raffle airplane announced

    @Ken Pedersen Understandable. As a volunteer I'm sure this isn't your arena.
  4. HamishTHaggis

    Wings of Hope Fall 2018 Raffle airplane announced

    @scorpio You're of course entitled to that opinion. I was actually advising people to exercise caution in pursuing raffle entries, and giving rationale for doing so based on my experience. Would I like WoH to ultimately make good on their offer? Yes, of course I would, and I said so. But...
  5. HamishTHaggis

    Wings of Hope Fall 2018 Raffle airplane announced

    @Grum.Man As I've said before, my point in posting here isn't to put this situation to trial in the court of public opinion. That said, I have no particular objection to sharing - I'll ask my attorney if he has any objection to my doing so.
  6. HamishTHaggis

    Wings of Hope Fall 2018 Raffle airplane announced

    @Grum.Man Again, you may be right, but they had the list of issues, which was not limited to the wings. They didn't ask for any additional info or pricing or anything before offering. And I still believe someone in that position must have had a reasonable idea what the cost would be.
  7. HamishTHaggis

    Wings of Hope Fall 2018 Raffle airplane announced

    @Grum.Man Could be....but I would think the head of a maintenance department with a fleet of similar aircraft would have a pretty good idea of the cost of repairs. And if he didn't, why make the offer without asking?
  8. HamishTHaggis

    Wings of Hope Fall 2018 Raffle airplane announced

    @Kenny Phillips An A&P determined it was not airworthy. WoH suggested he might be overly conservative and encouraged a second opinion. We pursued a second opinion from another A&P, who concurred. Then WoH offered to cover repair costs, hence the situation now. @Ken Pedersen I appreciate you...
  9. HamishTHaggis

    Wings of Hope Fall 2018 Raffle airplane announced

    @SoonerAviator Possible legal actions aside (because PoA isn't the right forum), I also would've expected WOH to stand by their word. @timwinters Thank you - this is my point. Whether they had to or not, they chose to make the offer, and offer on which I have now relied.
  10. HamishTHaggis

    Wings of Hope Fall 2018 Raffle airplane announced

    Quite. At the time when I won, it was precisely the kind of aircraft i needed - I was after all a student with a whopping 10 hours or so in my logbook.
  11. HamishTHaggis

    Wings of Hope Fall 2018 Raffle airplane announced

    @Stingray Don At this point, with the benefit of hindsight, I would have to agree with you. Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk
  12. HamishTHaggis

    Wings of Hope Fall 2018 Raffle airplane announced

    No disrespect intended here @SkyDog58 - yes aviation is expensive, etc. All of this is true. I've already said as much. But the bottom line is that isn't really relevant anymore. When I had a plane with problems, I had a challenge I needed to resolve. I could have done many things -...
  13. HamishTHaggis

    Wings of Hope Fall 2018 Raffle airplane announced

    @scorpio I didn't make a request for payment. I made a request for information. They offered payment, then backed away after the fact. That's the whole point.
  14. HamishTHaggis

    Wings of Hope Fall 2018 Raffle airplane announced

    @scorpio Obviously that's true. It's also a question for my attorney and myself. My point in posting here wasn't to look for legal advice. It was as stated - to inform others that I have found WOH to be unreliable. Whether they can be legally held accountable is not a question for a forum...
  15. HamishTHaggis

    Wings of Hope Fall 2018 Raffle airplane announced

    @eman1200 Offhand I don't believe that list did carry pricing, but I'm not certain and don't have it in front of my at this very moment. But the Director of Maintenance for WoH surely knows approximately what repairs on a C172 run, wouldn't you think? They didn't ask for more info, they...
  16. HamishTHaggis

    Wings of Hope Fall 2018 Raffle airplane announced

    @eman1200 "We will be glad to cover the cost of repairs" is a direct quote. It was made in response to seeing an itemized squawk list of the proposed repairs to be addressed.
  17. HamishTHaggis

    Wings of Hope Fall 2018 Raffle airplane announced

    @Wade I may contact you about this in the next couple of days if you don't mind. That said, I wouldn't walk away with $10k. I *might* recover a portion of the other money spent housing and insuring the airplane and pursuing a resolution.
  18. HamishTHaggis

    Wings of Hope Fall 2018 Raffle airplane announced

    @scorpio Again - they may not have had any duty to pay for it. But they offered to do so. An offer on which I acted and thus incurred liability that I would not have otherwise had. By offering to pay, they accepted a duty to pay - do you disagree?
  19. HamishTHaggis

    Wings of Hope Fall 2018 Raffle airplane announced

    @Kenny Phillips Whether it was airworth is certainly debatable. Some of the damage in question was subtle. Some was concealed under the STOL kit. I and others firmly believe that the damage existed the day we acquired the aircraft as we don't have any other way to account for it's existence...
  20. HamishTHaggis

    Wings of Hope Fall 2018 Raffle airplane announced

    @scorpio You're correct, if I'd bought the aircraft I'd be in the same position...except I wouldn't have approved work and incurred the bill, just as I wouldn't have in this case had they not made the offer.
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