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I think I have finally narrowed my search down to a Cessna 182. I've been looking for P and Q models, but the prices are pretty high. So I found an older model with low airframe hours, midtime engine (~900), and a new glass panel. My concern is how much am I really missing between say an F model...

I didn't get formal quotes. Parker Woodruff gave me some estimates. I have 2 formal quotes for a 182P. Parker was 50-60% of the first quote I got. If you haven't talked to him yet I would give him a call. I've not purchased through him yet, but he has taken plenty of time to talk with me on...

Hmm, unless you got a line on the winning Powerball ticket and then I could actually afford an airplane. That being said, I got some insurance quotes. Looks like a C182 P/Q is in my future.

Lot's of great suggestions in this thread. I'm going to put in a call to an insurance agent today and get a dose of reality. Wish me luck.

North Phoenix, close to Deer Valley airport.

It would be 6 seat or retract. I think the Cherokee 6 is likely going to be what I'm shooting for.

KDVT - Phoenix AZ

The PA32 is really really is emerging as the most logical (as logical as this choice could be) choice. That being said there is a big price delta between the 260 and 300. I know the 300 is the preferred choice, especially out west here, but how challenged will the 260 be?

I'll check that out.

Cessna 172S I do have some concern with getting in and out of a single front door low wing, but I think I can make do based on my initial test fits of the Mooney and PA28-235

I can't make the forward CG work.

That's good to know.

I've been training in a 172. It's not ideal, but that's the measuring stick, from a width standpoint, that I've been basing things off. When I do my typical mission, KDVT - KCMA, The difference between say the TB-20 and the Cherokee 6/260 is 15 minutes and 5 gallons. Even something fast like a...

I don't mind a slightly slower speed to gain some comfort. I've been keeping an eye out for the 114, but I haven't seen many available.

You are not wrong. When one person in a family of 4 weighs in at 300 pounds it adds up quickly. To be completely honest I will likely fly pretty often without 200 of the 820 as my oldest son, who is 21, works full time.

Ok, soon to be newly minted PPL. Looking to buy my, obviously, first airplane. My budget is up to 165k. I'm not looking to spend it all, but willing to if the right plane comes up. I know insurance will be high. I would consider a less expensive retract possibly. My mission/desires 8-10 times...