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When I was a PPL student, I loved them. Less time in between each rep for each task around the pattern really helped me get into rhythm and become comfortable staying a step ahead of the airplane. Granted, those were all in two of the simplest planes on earth to fly (Cherokee 140/160 and...

If you pull it off, let me know and I'll come "retire" with you. B.A. in vocal performance and aspiring CFI.

Not bad. I plan on taking her to Minneapolis and NE Wisconsin a few times...I'll try and remember to report a true number.

As always, appreciate the discussion fellas. Checking out in a 172RG at Y14 tomorrow morning, first complex/retract. Wish it were a touch cheaper to rent, but I guess you've got to pay to make the wheels go up.

Not a bad idea - I've had the same thoughts myself on the revenue side. I'm not sure balkanization would have any practical effect, since you're only going to look for flights originating near where you live anyway, but I think the fact that it might change the analysis under FAA's...

I haven't had time to listen yet, but this is a very clear explanation of your argument. I especially liked your exposition of the fundamental problem we keep batting back and forth:

This is, incidentally, what the judges are trying to determine in this case. If the court finds the agency's action is "arbitrary, capricious, an abuse of discretion, or otherwise not in accordance with law", it must hold that action to be unlawful and set it aside. 5 U.S.C. § 706. I...

They do, and to be clear I'm not suggesting all part 91 ops are performed by safe, proficient pilots. Some are, and those who take their responsibility seriously should be able to use the internet to implement the Pro rata exemption that is already ok'd.

That shows the basic discrepancy between the two sides here: I just don't think what Flytenow or the pilots using it want to do is "offer flights to the general public in exchange for money." I know so because I'm one of them! People who actually want to fly and make money will continue to...

Maybe I wasn't clear. I'm suggesting Flytenow would give the FAA a chance to crack down on get-there-itis among part 91 pilots by giving the agency extra data about the pilots' intentions far before the day of the potential flight. It isn't about beefing up enforcement; it's about handing bad...

I agree 100% with you there. Frankly, that's what GA is supposed to be, and if the FAA monitors Flytenow like a hawk to weed out risky pilots it'd be fine by me. I don't want Flytenow to make people think private GA is something it isn't; I want Flytenow to bring the full risk and...

Well...other than "Agency position appears consistent." I took that as an endorsement of grounding Flytenow.

AOPA votes nay. http://www.aopa.org/News-and-Video/All-News/2014/August/20/FAA-warns-flight-sharing-services

I've got an example that might be a little closer to home:http://www.pilotsofamerica.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61434&highlight=ride+share+oshkosh Did that thread constitute "holding out?" If so, why have a pro rata share exemption at all? If not, why is it any different from Flytenow?

Another thought just occurred to me: the Uber v. ride board analogy really depends more on perspective than anything else. From the pilots' perspective, it's a ride sharing board. From the consumers, particularly any consumers who are miraculously ignorant of GA's poor safety record compared...

Maybe I'm just naive or something, but I simply don't see the problem. Neither of these would be impermissible by word of mouth under the pro rata share rule that pilots have been using for decades. Heck, you could start a PoA thread or fire mass emails to everyone you knew to try and...

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I think we must have different friends, and that's ok. When I tell people I fly little planes, by far the most common reaction I get is "aren't those really dangerous?" I grew up around it, so it never bothered me, but I know it's still a challenge for my entire in-law family even though my...

I'd really encourage you to do one of two things: 1. Think of a backup career you'd actually enjoy in case (God forbid) aviation didn't work out and figure out how to get there. Live your college life as if that's your ultimate goal, and decide once you get out whether you want to keep going...

It looks like I'm the outlier! I think the part I quoted above is where I disagree. The public is very well, if not excessively, informed about the safety record of general aviation. I don't think it's a secret buried in small print, but if I did I admit I'd probably convert to your side. If...