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To clarify, I need a low purchase price. No inexpensive capex= first year cost is what I need Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I keep coming back to an early bonanza for 50-70k Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The culver is really interesting but no wood as a hangar might not be possible. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Sure… I wouldn’t get a Cessna retract and even the non retract are a rip off for what they are. A decent 182 is 120k and you can get a much better plane for that kind of money. Compare a Comanche, Bo or Mooney and see what you’ll get for what a straight leg 182 is worth. You keep going on...

Thanks Steam, I had a sense this likely wouldn't be that great of situation for me and hadn't even inquired as to hourly/monthly costs and how their partnership works. if it was closer, I might have. I'm hoping I can get hull on something cheap and have a reasonably low amount of dual required...

I'd tend to agree for most, though, this is just to increase my insurability in a future twin, not to necessarily go faster today. Though getting into a 150kt plane opens up more mid range travel than 110kts does

remember, that's not my NEXT one, that's a hopefully in a few years. I think I'll have to get to ~500 hours to get insured in the Tbone unless that insurance market changes a lot. That's why I want to fly a bunch of retract between now and then (I'm around 250hours now, but only 5 hours of...

I found a local-ish partnership in a Comanche 250 that's all gussied up, but I'm not sure if partnership will work for me. They want 40k for 1/4th of it. The plane is about an hour away though and I worry that the drive time, plus member scheduling would ruin the "hey it's nice, I should go...

Likely a Twin bonanza, but possibly an Aztec. I have a little time in Travelair (twin training), but otherwise just 172/182 time. I just need to get to insurable, and then competent. As hard as the market is, I might have a tough time getting insured in a retract single with hull only...

Interesting Ghery, I haven't been in a PA 28, so I'm not sure how the cockpit would feel, good to be on the lookout for that.

Thanks hindsight. I do think that getting >100 hours retract will make me much likely to be insurable at all, let alone at a premium I want to pay on the twin, I also think that realistically, with the amount of flying I can fit in, I don't want a twin at this point as I can't stay as...

Thanks Steam, I think that's quite a bit too much capital for me on purchase, though they do have a lot going for them.

thanks Brian, I think I need to stick with something that I can "get in and go" to try to build hours. Not too worried about the hourly costs, just want to keep the purchase price low

Thanks, looks like 750' takeoff roll at gross weight at sea level. Strip is AT sea level and paved, and there is normally a headwind

No you take off over the ocean, 8000 clear miles past the runway to climb, it’s usually got a 10kt wind and it’s never more than 70 Fahrenheit Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I’ve always liked the looks of Comanches. How’s the short field behavior? I’m based in 5,000 ft paved but like to go to a couple that are 1,800 at sea level Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

an m20C could be interesting, as I think through it, I'd want to at least be able to go 2 adults + a kid, as I think I'd put a lot more hours on it that way, thinking about some longer missions I could do, so i think the Mite is out, but archer, 172RG, m20c and eseries Bo seem to all have...

that's pretty but starts around 150K...

Thanks, I really hadn't thought of those. Cheapest is 90K so on the high end of what I wanted to spend (just about out of what I can do at this point in time. To clarify folks, I don't really care about fuel burn, I'm looking at low CAPEX and hoping for "not asinine" OPEX during the 3 years...

Thanks, people do love them. The cheapest I found was $80k which is pretty stiff and it's 2350 SMOH so I'd have to think it's close to run out. The next cheapest on controller is 105K which is beyond what I want to put into a temp plane. I do like them from what I can see though.