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I don't know why you're hung up on the name. Since the forward and side slip are identical aerodynamically, does the "forward" slip also cause this same "sideways" movement, or does is slice "forward" though the air. This tangent you're on is just silly. What's not silly is that you said a...

You will move to the left of the runway of course, but it's not because you were in a slip. It's because of your flight path. Take the same x-wind and crab down final instead of slipping. Take the x-wind away and you will move to the left just the same as if you were slipping. It's a flight path...

:eek: You win. Now...does "side" mean the airplane adopts a new flight path, or just flies with the nose yawed to the side. ;)

You can't be serious. Can you describe the flight path change that is occurring here? There was no wind. Your statements have me wondering if you are a pilot. I've said (and shown in video) that a slip can be balanced such that there is no turning, or imbalanced such that a slipping...

Truth.

When people say the airplane "starts moving sideways", I interpret this as a flight path change - like the runway drill. To me, this is different from simply flying along the same fight path you were before you slipped, but with your nose pointing in a different direction from your flight path...

You exit the slip you are in, and then apply slipping turn inputs in the opposite direction. THEN you neutralize the controls and continue on your way, tracking the runway. It's so easy to go up and do this stuff. But I think you hinted that the main problem here - that the picture is...

That's fine. I simply suggest you take your vintage Cessna out and fly that picture - slip such that your flight path is at an angle to the runway, nose aligned with the runway, and see what happens when you do nothing but "neutralize the controls". Where are you pointed, and what's your flight...

You got it.

The picture on the LEFT shows the airplane starting in a flight path straight ahead. Then it shows a redirected flight path to the left, in a slip. Then it shows "controls are neutralized", redirecting the flight path back again. This forward, angled, and back forward flight path is the exact...

You sure has hell do. But that is different from the 'drill', which shows flight path changes, and "controls neutralized" as redirecting the flight path.

:confused: What?? Can you be articulate?

Yep, the three amigos from the density altitude thread that everybody else quit trying to have a discussion with. ;) Henning gets it, Rotordude gets it. Many others from that other thread got it, but they jumped ship after Charlie Tango's posts kept coming. Though he did eventually see things...

Are we looking at the same picture?? The picture in post #1 has a text box at the top that reads, "controls are neutralized". That box points to the moment in the 'sideslip' where the flight path changes back to tracking the runway. It's the exact same thing depicted to the right, in the 'slip...

I don't disagree with this, never have. I'm saying that you cannot redirect the flight path while keeping the nose on heading simply by "neutralizing the controls". You would need to manipulate the ailerons and rudder to accomplish this. If you simply "neutralize" as described on the drawing...

I don't expect that at this point. We are still thinking of the term differently, even if we both correctly grasp physics. But the "part 2" of my post 86 above is impossible for me to chalk up to semantics.

You are correct, but that is only part 1. Part 2 is that you cannot simply "neutralize the controls" and redirect your flight path a second time, back on track, as described in the picture. I guess we went around the world to [hopefully] agree that the slip drill could be accomplished with...

If we were sitting together and I had an airplane model to move and show what I'm talking about, and how I feel that slip drill is inaccurately drawn (and described on that drawing), I think I could get you to understand what I'm talking about, and how I'm thinking about "lateral movement". But...

Post 74 says the same thing as Post 1, only in far fewer words for those with short attention spans. ;)

No to both. This thread was about that slip drill diagram as drawn. Can't be more concise and clear about this than post # 74.