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Yes it is the published speed at a max weight of 2400 lbs. No, we are not at max weight but since there is no other published speed and no guidance given in the POH on how to reduce speed based on weight, we have been keeping our approach speed at 61. No I have not done this at an actual short...

I still don't know how to do a short field landing. I can hit my touchdown point, but in order to do that I have to set my aiming point 500 feet before my touchdown point just like I do for a normal landing with a 65 knot approach speed. For the short-field, I approach at 61 and enter ground...

Those are my thoughts. If I'm going to get the MEI I might as well combine the training. The savings would probably be like $2000? I'm not totally sure I want to get the MEI though. If I can get hired by a 135 with less than 10 hours multi then I'd just do that. I'd like to get some 135...

Last question, what is the FAA's definition of minimal float? I can not find any specification.

Yes. When I did it the #2 method, where we chopped power and pitched down to maintain 61 knots until entering ground effect, I noticed we touched down earlier than method #1. So I guess that picture isn't even accurate in terms of glide path if you chopped power all the way immediately after...

Because I don't consider floating 300-500 feet to be "minimal float". Take a look at how Embry-Riddle presents the short-field approach and landing. They clearly show that the plane flies a direct glide path down to a touchdown point with zero floating. Their verbal instructions in that video...

For a normal landing, I usually touch down at the 1000 foot markers and I aim for the 500 foot markers. Carrying an approach speed of 65 knots into ground effect usually makes me float about 500 foot. For a short-field landing, I have also been trying to touch down at the 1000 foot markers...

Ok. Got it. So the aircraft in that illustration is gliding towards an aiming point. And there is still expected to be somewhat of a float prior to touchdown, only that the float is "minimal" as compared to a normal landing. In other words there are still separate aiming and touchdown...

The ACS makes no mention of an aiming point for either a normal landing or a short-field landing. It only mentions touchdown point. However, the AFH does mention aiming point and as you know it explains that for a normal landing, you should use an aiming point which precedes your touchdown...

Where is the aiming point for this aircraft then? The picture shows the airplane in a constant stabilized glidepath, with no floating, all the way to touch down to a point on the runway. I'm going to call that point the touchdown point. I don't see in this graphic that the airplane is ever at...

That is helpful to understand. Thank you. It raises a new question, however. If you are NOT going to simulate a 50 foot obstacle on a short-field, then where does the approach end and the roundout/flare begin? Do you utilize an aiming point and touchdown point for short-field landings? If...

I am so utterly confused. How are you touching down AT your aiming point for a normal landing? How/why are you touching down BEFORE your aiming point for a short field landing? Wouldn't that be a disapproval on a practical test?

I don't understand. Glideslope 1, to me, implies that there is no transition that takes place at the aiming point. There is no separate aiming point either. Rather your touchdown point and aiming point are the same point. The transition occurs while you are on glideslope going down to your...

Ok thank you. Can you confirm if my understanding of how to fly glideslope 1 is correct? When clear of the 50 foot obstacle, I should begin reducing power and simultaneously adjust the pitch attitude up to maintain my glidepath down to my touchdown point. Airspeed bleeds off during this...

Neither one resembles my normal landing technique. My normal landing technique is to fly down to my aiming point at 65 knots, with partial power in (about 1500 RPM), and full flaps. When I'm about 20 feet above the runway, I smoothly pull power to idle, pitch the nose up slightly to round out...

Just so I understand... You trim for 60 and use power to glide to an aiming point 50-75 feet prior to touchdown point. Then when just above the runway at your aiming point you pull the power and the plane settles right down? I'm not arguing but I don't understand how that is possible since...

What does it mean to be on speed though? The POH says 61 knots until it's time to flare. When is it time to flare? Technique 1 has to start to flare way above the runway so as to maintain a constant glide path down to your touchdown point. Technique 2 has you maintain 61 knots until...

I am flying in a 1980 C172. I can not understand the correct way to perform a short-field landing. The short-field approach procedure outlined in my POH says to do this: "For a short field landing in smooth air conditions, make an approach at 61 KIAS with 30° flaps using enough power to...