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That's what I remember. I got about an hour of acro training in your SNJ with Greg back in '07. It was a lot nicer to throw around than I expected it to be. Would love to get a full checkout if I could actually justify it. :)

Haha - that's what most people think when they learn I do this stuff.

Finally a break yesterday from the crap Wx and had to rip a little. Just some fun stuff.

Hello Mark - the list below is a start, though this information is not necessarily complete or current. http://www.iacusn.org/schools/#state_FL_

Ran across this old footage of the late Bobby Younkin flying a T-6. Snaps, vertical roll, avalanche, hammers, rolling turn. Nice flying. Any T-6 drivers here? What's the standard fuel/oil setup, and what's different (if anything) on his airplane for negative G work? I've got an hour of acro...

Re: Harrison Ford in a crash PT-22. The panel is right in your face and even with shoulder harnesses, it seems your head can still take a beating.

John where's YOUR video of Yak 52 acro practice? :D

In bold is the key word. Of course both controls pass through neutral at some point. And likely not even at the same time. Again, I've asked more than one person to shut down the computer, go up and fly a slip (the steeper the better for visual purposes) at a flight path angled to the...

Silvaire - until we can meet up and drink some beers at the airport...

Hopefully I can sum up this thread with two points: 1) The runway drill is possible. Yep, video proof exists. Nobody here denied it could be done. 2) The runway drill movements are NOT possible as described in the original picture. The original picture on the left shows the exact same...

But actually focusing carefully on the points is no fun. Seems some find it more fun to twist and misconstrue and grasp for reasons fling their monkey **** around. :lol: I can't believe dtuuri has not brought up dihedral in this discussion. :D

Here is where communication falls to pieces here. You say going from a crab to a slip alters your ground track. Most of us think of ground track as your path along the ground, not where the nose is pointed. Do we at least agree there? I cannot understand how you can say going from a crab to a...

If you removed the rudder first, you sure as hell did turn a little - until you got the stick back to center. That's what a slipping turn is - not enough rudder for the amount of aileron input. I guess I'm wacked on that too. You fellas have been real entertaining. But sorry - I'm out.

Oopsie...one last thing. I just realized the FAA calls 'side' slip the one that you use to land in x-wind. Not that it matters to me or this discussion. I told you I can never remember this nonsense. Silvaire said a 'side' slip involves no heading change. Well whenever I've crabbed down final...

So nobody here will say that an airplane has a good chance at returning to wings level when the controls are neutralized from a slip? Seriously? :confused: What kind of airplanes do YOU fly? Great poll thread, BTW: Yes or no - an airplane will likely return to wings level when slip inputs...

Addressed in post 106. Not going to repeat myself. You mean argue against? This post doesn't really make much sense.

More spin and reading failure. I never denied the difference in the way people consider them. But your post 203 failed miserably at describing how the vast majority of pilots think of the difference. You said side slip = no heading change. You're the first person I've heard of who thinks of it...

Two Amigos - again I ask - who as standard practice enters a slip to land without changing their heading, as if to replicate that runway drill? That's your definition of a 'side slip'. I understand what you're describing, but nobody lands like that as SOP. My instructor never taught me to land...

Hey I agree w/ dtuuri... only it's the 'forward' slip that most people seem to refer to as the nose is aligned with the ground reference (runway), as with a x-wind landing. Though I never tried very hard to remember what people think is which. You'll never hear me utter 'forward' or 'side' in...

Couldn't tell you. I've never owned a plane with gyros. It's so dead nuts simple... Set up a slip as steep as possible (only to maximize the ability to see what's happening) with your flight path angled to the runway, nose on runway heading and then neutralize the controls. That means...