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Well, you're either hand flying, or you're using an AP. Acro planes don't typically have AP's, but even a well-rigged Pitts will fly hands off the stick in smooth air for as long as you like. Mine did. You can stay on perfect heading with minute rudder pressure. It's no more work than hand...

Just a little eye candy on what I was generously offered to fly this week. Prototype Wolf Pro 360. Not a Pitts. Baddest 4-cylinder acro bipe on the planet currently.

True, I flew this a couple days ago and it did 172 MPH at 25/25 w/ a 10:1 Lyc IO-360. :cool:

No. You fail the reading and comprehension portion of this test LOL

Spin is the last resort of someone with no legs to stand on. LOL time to move on bud.

Here's the thing that's not self-evident to non-acro folks - how skilled an aerobatic pilot you end up becoming has almost nothing to do with who you obtained a little initial dual from. Initial acro dual is intended to teach the absolute bare basics and to get a pilot safe doing those basics on...

Then Sean Tucker's school wouldn't cut it for you either. ;)

You're clearly not an acro guy so I can't blame you for thinking the way you do, but it's really not worth trying to explain. Patty is very good but IMO the OP will be a little better served by Steve and the Pitts for the reasons I've already mentioned. I'm not just some dude with a Pitts avatar.

Patty is good but folks need to understand that being "famous" doesn't mean much when it comes to basic acro training. Some of the best acro instructors are little known names. Steve has Patty's ability in Pitts types, Patty is just a monoplane pilot.

Just go see Steve Wolf (Wingover). He's one of the best Pitts pilots and instructors anywhere. You can do basic acro/spin training along with a Pitts checkout. The Citabria is OK for the basic endorsement, but if you get comfortable landing the S-2B, the ASII will be a breeze. The Acro Sport...

Not to make judgments on any other type of experience these guys have, but FYI simply being an F-14 pilot or Ag pilot means squat when it comes to doing what you're talking about in an airplane like this.

To a Cub maybe...for now.

There's lots wrong here, and the AI is by far the least concerning thing about this deal. Suggest finding an experienced aerobatic instructor in an aerobatic airplane if you want to learn to do a basic roll.

I said I have let it go, not that I had to let it go. Burnout mostly.

Sadly, I have let my Pitts go to a new home. Just some clips over the last few years.

First of all, if you're in a situation where you think you are (or actually are) applying proper spin recovery inputs with no success, you either don't know what you're doing, or you have just become a test pilot in an airplane that's likely unsuitable for this. At this point the outcome of...

These things have fuselage fuel, so should not have been an unporting issue. Wood props can quit during spins, especially with the reduced airflow through the prop of a flattened spin. The pilot finally managed to stumble across the correct inputs for recovering a flat spin most efficiently -...

Regarding getting down fast, J-3's are held back by their wing loading. Ever tried a Pitts? :D Messing around a few years back turning 'final' at 1000' AGL.

I'm not adding qualifiers or moving the target. The original comment that stirred all this up was my response to a post that mentioned needing full aft stick on top of a loop to avoid getting too slow and stalling. I think poster who wrote that used the wrong choice of words, and didn't really...

I made the mistake of framing my comments consistent with general GA flight training and aerobatic principles in piston-driven airplanes. Should not have said ALL flying. An Airbus may also call for full elevator deflection at times, I don't know. That being said, how is negative G any...