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  1. cappy48

    Trio vs TruTrak

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Doin good except the math.. 40 hrs at $100/hr is 4000.00 makes the Trio $10245 In addition what the manufacturers estimate.. here are real numbers from other forums.. "Real world" install...
  2. cappy48

    Trio vs TruTrak

    ROTFL! :):) … And they are around ! Cap
  3. cappy48

    Trio vs TruTrak

    Absolutely sure.. and too old to even consider being an investor or principle in ANY company now.. Did that for 40 years, now retired and believe me, it is a permanent retirement. I don't know, and have not met anybody involved with either company and live a half continent away from either...
  4. cappy48

    Researching Auto-pilot options for Cherokee 180?

    Ya... Although the Local Garmin/S-Tec dealer is VERY capable of fixing ANYTHING, S-Tec will not allow him to, nor will provide tech info to do so. The units have to go back to the factory for the smallest fault, and they never come back with an invoice for less than $2500 . They always need a...
  5. cappy48

    Researching Auto-pilot options for Cherokee 180?

    Hehe... Carry on! We will never recoup the investment we have in this Warrior.... and don't care. Its a beaut, love flying it, fits the mission exactly, and will probably be our last airplane. Would we like an Arrow or "Toga? Absolutely! But when most of your flying is within a few hundred...
  6. cappy48

    Researching Auto-pilot options for Cherokee 180?

    >>>and their marketing statement of install it in 40 hrs or less is something I just don’t believe With more information coming out, recent guestimates seem to validate your suspicion.. and Dynon have stated in a communication that their first estimates were "very optimistic" . Some as high as...
  7. cappy48

    Researching Auto-pilot options for Cherokee 180?

    Hi ND! I will concede that if the crosswind is strong, and 90 degrees to your track, and the deviation is very long (15 minutes or more) you might end up "off" a bit from where they expect you to be. However, the headings they usually give you are approximate (to the nearest 10 degrees...
  8. cappy48

    Researching Auto-pilot options for Cherokee 180?

    Yes, but the TruuTrak is probably your only option in that budget. And it is a EXCELLENT AP in that range... I have a (recently installed ) one in our Warrior... Cappy
  9. cappy48

    Trio vs TruTrak

    I have the same information... The Mooney guys are calling them... :) Cap
  10. cappy48

    Trio vs TruTrak

    I will try…. :) Trio has an "offset" course option, (this is also in most GPS navigators) can engage Horizontal and vertical operation separately, has an "Emergency " 180 degree turn option, and has an adjustable "intercept angle" in re-engaging a course track. Its menu construction is a...
  11. cappy48

    Trio vs TruTrak

    Your point is well taken.... But, it is worth pointing out that the TT install is so well thought out, and so SIMPLE, that anyone with a basic knowledge of aircraft and good maintenance and wiring knowledge can do it themselves. And many have. The installation manual has good pix, CLEAR...
  12. cappy48

    Trio vs TruTrak

    Trio does not have auto trim, but both Trio and TT have circuitry that CAN drive electric trim, and it may come in the future, but both companies are struggling to increase their AML as a first priority though. Your question... I find it is not a nuisance at all.... In rough air it may seem...
  13. cappy48

    Trio vs TruTrak

    Word is that the TruTrac installs in PA-28s are now in the hundreds and they only started shipping in Feb- March of this year. They have building them as fast as they are able, and giving AMAZING support to the field. Our install was blessed by a AMO (Canadian Regulations - another thread...
  14. cappy48

    Trio vs TruTrak

    Our install in a Warrior went well in 20 man hours. VERY clever engineering! >>and Ive read trio and the STC group has had problems Well, I have a pipeline into some of the situation, and know more than I can speak about here.. but many have lost a lot of confidence in the situation.. :( Our...
  15. cappy48

    Let’s Talk About Autopilots

    Same... They (lately) moved the roll servo to under the rear seat, for the straight wing Cherokees, and that helped a lot, but too late discovered that some Cherokees do not have the ELT access hole in the tail. (!) (The Elt is sometimes mounted behind the cabin bulkhead.) Then everything has...
  16. cappy48

    Let’s Talk About Autopilots

    One guy on the "Cherokee Chat" has one, took over 70 hours to install it... About 5 hours was used to reconfigure the radio stack for the rectangular head option.. but still... :( Cap
  17. cappy48

    Let’s Talk About Autopilots

    Ya... I have NEVER received a "heading" specified to the last digit.. has always been "070", "010 " , "260" etc.. One would have to be in a strong direct crosswind for a long time in a slow Cherokee (Guilty!) for everybody else to "drift" to where you might be a problem.. I think the...
  18. cappy48

    Let’s Talk About Autopilots

    Exactly!...... And have the $$$$ to pay for it... (not in our budget) Gona spend my pennies on an Aspen and get some glass, a new DG and AI, ILS and IAS climbs. The auto trim I will have to do without, and I have no intention of ever getting into IFR minimums.. My skill set is not even close...
  19. cappy48

    Let’s Talk About Autopilots

    AHA! Last I heard they were shipping about 30 units per week, and as of late October they still had a back log of orders... I opened up the back seat to have a look at our TT installation, all was well after many hours of operation.. Like you, I cannot justify the Garmin $$$$ for a heading...
  20. cappy48

    Let’s Talk About Autopilots

    Hi Jessie! Like old home week here... :) Cap
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