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Sell to someone else.

But the implication of the post I replied to was that somehow it would have made a difference in this accident. We have no evidence that this pilot exceeded any of his personal minimums.

Only if you’re not proficient. And if you’re not proficient, you shouldn’t be taking the checkride.

push that through at a regulatory level, and you can probably get the ACS changed. Or just require every pilot to start with a SP certificate.

Pass/fail criteria is basically +1 or 2 knots, -0. Whether that’s 1-2 knots above stall or 5-6 doesn’t make a difference.

If everything that a pilot should be proficient at needed to be demonstrated on a checkride, that would be one long checkride.

And they still decided the change was necessary.

I disagree that subjecting examiners to the potential need for spin recovery in an airplane not certified for spins is a good thing.

What are the stall characteristics of Malibus, Cirruses, Barons, TBMs…? The previous standards were written when very few pilots went through initial training in high performance airplanes. The mere fact that they wrote the Light Sport standards after the Private standards were changed indicates...

Not specifically picking on Matthew here, but it’s the one I could find. Regardless of quality of training, this implies that it’s acceptable (and even normal) to get worse after the checkride, not better.

That would probably require limiting private pilot checkrides to airplanes without nasty stall characteristics. if the difference between flying 5-6 knots above a stall instead of 1-2 knots above a stall is causing people to float halfway down the runway, pilots are seriously ****ed up. Beyond...

Ah, so nothing would have prevented this pilot from departing, as his personal limits included this takeoff. Sounds like it would have prevented the accident. :rolleyes:

We now have that proof, so I’m guessing no CFI will sign him off anymore, nor will any DPE give him a checkride.

So what do you think slow flight and stalls should be changed to?

Is the tubing for one of them near the heat vent?

They departed at 1 AM about an hour behind schedule. Links build up pretty quickly at that point.

Proof that he can’t learn from his mistakes.

Where are the Go parameters published?

Meaning what, since slow flight and stalls are in the private pilot ACS?

There’s a lack of ownership in the recipients of good flight instruction as well. Take the taildragger example…a taildragger requires you to use rudder properly, but only requires it in a taildragger. A lot of people go back to nosedraggers and revert right back to poor rudder technique.