"Aviation Consumer" Gone West?

I'm among like minds in this thread. IFR Magazine is (was?) my only magazine subscription, and I'm sorry to see it go. Thanks to all the editors and writing staff. Your work made me a better pilot.
 
SoCal 182 Driver said:
What about subscription refunds?
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If it is folding due to bankruptcy, customers owed future performance/refunds, etc. get to stand in line with all the other unsecured creditors, usually getting a prorated share of whatever crumbs fall off the BK table.

OTOH, if there is an orderly winding down, they may have made provisions to provide refunds.

That said, all I know about this specific case it what has been posted here.
 
My subscription to IFR expires 7/1/25 and I was debating whether to renew. I guess that decision has been made for me.
 
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I just finished downloading the digital library, no idea how long it will stay open. Oh well…
 
I just renewed IFR Magazine, like 12 minutes ago.

I called the company, they said IFR Magazine is not going away.

I specifically asked about Aviation Consumer and Aviation Safety also, they said those magazines REMAIN AVAILABLE.

Please stop this kind of nonsense rumors without a source...

 
4RNB said:
I just renewed IFR Magazine, like 12 minutes ago.

I called the company, they said IFR Magazine is not going away.

I specifically asked about Aviation Consumer and Aviation Safety also, they said those magazines REMAIN AVAILABLE.

Please stop this kind of nonsense rumors without a source...
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I mean, one of the authors is on this thread confirming it. So you called the company and they said, "business as usual". And we have a writer saying that they are shutting down.

Something is fishy, but it's not speculation and rumor. It's conflicting facts from two sources that should both be credible!
 
4RNB said:
I just renewed IFR Magazine, like 12 minutes ago.

I called the company, they said IFR Magazine is not going away.

I specifically asked about Aviation Consumer and Aviation Safety also, they said those magazines REMAIN AVAILABLE.

Please stop this kind of nonsense rumors without a source...

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Let us know when your March issue shows up.

At the very least, not having writers contribute because they’ve been told it’s going away will make for some interesting reading.
 

Schedule - IFR Magazine

IFR Pilot Magazine reserves the right to change the number of issues in an annual term, including discontinuing any format and substituting and/or modifying the manner in which the subscription is distributed.
www.ifr-magazine.com www.ifr-magazine.com

Schedule - Aviation Consumer

Aviation Consumer Magazine reserves the right to change the number of issues in an annual term, including discontinuing any format and substituting and/or modifying the manner in which the subscription is distributed.
www.aviationconsumer.com www.aviationconsumer.com
 
4RNB said:

Schedule - IFR Magazine

IFR Pilot Magazine reserves the right to change the number of issues in an annual term, including discontinuing any format and substituting and/or modifying the manner in which the subscription is distributed.
www.ifr-magazine.com www.ifr-magazine.com

Schedule - Aviation Consumer

Aviation Consumer Magazine reserves the right to change the number of issues in an annual term, including discontinuing any format and substituting and/or modifying the manner in which the subscription is distributed.
www.aviationconsumer.com www.aviationconsumer.com
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So you agree that they could be discontinuing.
 
MauleSkinner said:
So you agree that they could be discontinuing.
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I hope not, I canceled Aviation Consumer and switched to IFR. I was very disappointed when Flying bought ACN and IFR then sent out an issue of nothing but ads as an "Ultimate Issue" and almost abandoned print media altogether and move to YouTube creators like Flight Insight, Aviation 101 and The Finer Points.

If they are continuing, that's great, but when an author writing for them states that they have been told they are discontinuing, that's a pretty strong sign.
 
Chris Mixon said:
….If they are continuing, that's great, but when an author writing for them states that they have been told they are discontinuing, that's a pretty strong sign….
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Are you referring to post 6?
 
"IFR Pilot Magazine reserves the right to change the number of issues in an annual term,..."​
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"Aviation Consumer Magazine reserves the right to change the number of issues in an annual term,..."​

Right down to zero issues, I presume. It appears to me that they promise their subscribers absolutely nothing in exchange for purchasing a subscription.

Maybe Aviation Consumer could publish a review and warn consumers.
 
Half Fast said:
Right down to zero issues, I presume. It appears to me that they promise their subscribers absolutely nothing in exchange for purchasing a subscription.

Maybe Aviation Consumer could publish a review and warn consumers.
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Oh, my man. Wait till you read the terms and conditions on the hundreds of applications you have on your various devices. ;-)
 
Flying as a group is on a downward trend. I stopped getting Kitplane for a while and when I subscribed again they were owned by Flying. The content is significantly weaker and I won't renew. Flying is killing everything they touch, including their own magazine.
 
bflynn said:
Flying as a group is on a downward trend. I stopped getting Kitplane for a while and when I subscribed again they were owned by Flying. The content is significantly weaker and I won't renew. Flying is killing everything they touch, including their own magazine.
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As the editor of Kitplanes before and after the acquisition, I'm curious to know why you feel the content is "significantly weaker." We haven't changed our approach to the magazine, nor have we lost any of our key contributors. Same group and magazine leadership before and after. I'd love to know how you feel we're not serving the market.
 
Marc Cook said:
I'd love to know how you feel we're not serving the market.
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Marc,

I don't subscribe to Kitplanes, but the FLYING group is not serving the market because they don't deliver their freakin' magazines! When I first subscribed, FLYING cashed my check but never started my subscription. It took multiple phone calls and an email with the check information to get it fixed.

Then a year or so later, they failed to deliver a couple of issues. I made multiple attempts to get my missing issues replaced, including phone call, emails, speaking to personnel at SNF, and even replying directly to Craig Fuller on this forum ( https://www.pilotsofamerica.com/com...give-away-the-airplanes-or-what.147036/page-2 post #52). He didn't respond.

Despite promises from everyone, and multiple people taking all my info, my issues never showed up, I never got any explanation, and I never had a response from Craig. Do you think I renewed when my subscription ran out? HAH!

FLYING as a magazine is fair, but nowhere near as good as it was 30 years ago. As a company, the FLYING Group absolutely sucks.
 
Half Fast said:
Marc,

I don't subscribe to Kitplanes, but the FLYING group is not serving the market because they don't deliver their freakin' magazines! When I first subscribed, FLYING cashed my check but never started my subscription. It took multiple phone calls and an email with the check information to get it fixed.

Then a year or so later, they failed to deliver a couple of issues. I made multiple attempts to get my missing issues replaced, including phone call, emails, speaking to personnel at SNF, and even replying directly to Craig Fuller on this forum ( https://www.pilotsofamerica.com/com...give-away-the-airplanes-or-what.147036/page-2 post #52). He didn't respond.

Despite promises from everyone, and multiple people taking all my info, my issues never showed up, I never got any explanation, and I never had a response from Craig. Do you think I renewed when my subscription ran out? HAH!

FLYING as a magazine is fair, but nowhere near as good as it was 30 years ago. As a company, the FLYING Group absolutely sucks.
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Yep, that stinks. I do know there were issues integrating all the mailing lists from the various acquired publishers. We had a bit of that at KP but it seems to have worked itself out. I can't see far enough into the machine to say what happened for you.
 
Marc Cook said:
Yep, that stinks. I do know there were issues integrating all the mailing lists from the various acquired publishers. We had a bit of that at KP but it seems to have worked itself out. I can't see far enough into the machine to say what happened for you.
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Problems happen. Nobody expects perfection. But for multiple staff members, including Fuller, to ignore a subscriber is contemptible. That’s not an issue of integrating lists. That’s an issue of not giving a damn about customers.
 
SkyChaser said:
The FBO at the airport I trained at always had the latest issues of all of the magazines on the table, and I loved leafing through them to look at the pretty pictures. I never spent the money to get my own subscription because so much of the content didn't apply to me even though it was fun to gawk over.

I wanted the "GA Pilots" Magazine, with cool flight/airplane pictures, maybe some "Lessons Learned" written by pilots about things they experienced, an "accident recap" section that would go over some recent accidents, a neat article about some niche piece of aviation history, maybe some notes from CFIs or DPES talking about common training and flying issues or pitfalls, a couple pieces by A&Ps about engine and plane maintenance, articles about any recent or proposed changes to any laws affecting flying, a reminisce column written by pilots who experienced flying 20, 40, 60 or more years ago, a short "cool gear" section talking about one or two aviation gadgets currently on the market, and a "hangar talk" section where pilots could send in funny jokes, life or flying accomplishments and milestones, etc. Maybe even a "flying-adjacent" column about RC stuff/drones?

If y'all could design your perfect "GA Pilots Magazine", what would it look like?
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Any Flying, Air Progress, or Plane and Pilot,etc., from the sixties or seventies.
 
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