Air Blue crash - captain with 25,000 hrs just as bad as some private pilots

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This reminds me of some CFITs by inexperienced PPs, but this guy had 25,000 hrs.
It seems some people enter a different state of mind (like panic but quiet), where they simply cannot think.
 
Are you using a VPN? I’ve had to pause it to access the YouTube links from this board.
 
Just post the investigation report so we can read it instead of giving views to a clickbait artist
 
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dmspilot said:
Just post the investigation report so we can read it instead of giving views to a clickbait artist
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It's no longer readily available from the Pakistani CAA but I got it from the Wayback Machine.

Nauga,
reportedly
 

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MountainDude said:
The "clickbait artist" is one of the most thorough, objective, and evidence-based analyst of plane crashes.
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I'd add 'sensationalist' to your list based on the video title alone.

Nauga,
who goes to the source.
 
nauga said:
I'd add 'sensationalist' to your list based on the video title alone.

Nauga,
who goes to the source.
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sensationalist = a person who presents stories in a way that is intended to provoke public interest or excitement, at the expense of accuracy.
Which part of the title is inaccurate?
 
MountainDude said:
sensationalist = a person who presents stories in a way that is intended to provoke public interest or excitement, at the expense of accuracy.
Which part of the title is inaccurate?
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The part about the mistake (singular).

Not that I clicked on the clickbait, but I’ve never heard of an accident with just one link in the chain.
 
nauga said:
It's no longer readily available from the Pakistani CAA but I got it from the Wayback Machine.

Nauga,
reportedly
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I click on that and get this. I click download and it goes away. Where do I find it. I’m on an IPad mini 6.

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MountainDude said:
This reminds me of some CFITs by inexperienced PPs, but this guy had 25,000 hrs.
It seems some people enter a different state of mind (like panic but quiet), where they simply cannot think.
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Not all hours are created equal. I’d take the guy who has been doing night freight in a clapped out metro with no autopilot for the last 2500 hours over a 25,000 hour pilot who has only ever worked at the airlines.

Not that it’s necessarily pertinent to this accident, but there is a seriously disturbing trend at the airlines where the only experience that an upgrading airline captain has as PIC was in the right seat of a seminole/172. I know someone who is now a Captain at Delta who fits that description.
 
luvflyin said:
It say’s I gotta sign in
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MountainDude said:
That is weird. It's a free video on Youtube.
Does this link work?
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I've been getting that a lot on embedded YouTube videos the last few days. For example, I was trying to play some videos on Best Tugs' website earlier tonight and YT said I needed to sign in.

Of course, when I hit the link it takes me to YouTube where I'm already signed in and the video works fine, so I'm not quite sure how I'm going to go about fixing it.
 
Let'sgoflying! said:
He wasn’t even trying to see the runway; homegrown approach & 1950’s cockpit dynamics.
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Full disclosure, I don't watch click-bait.

But don't dis the 50's. I wish that I knew as much about flying as opposed to managing as some of those older guys.
 
JackL-3J said:
Full disclosure, I don't watch click-bait.

But don't dis the 50's. I wish that I knew as much about flying as opposed to managing as some of those older guys.
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The content creator is a former USAF F-15 pilot that has significant operational experience with responsibility for complicated missions. He plays it pretty much straight up.

His videos are narrative in nature, uses official reports as a basis for analysis, and his opinions are valid. It's much more interesting and educational than watching Juan Brown read ASN and NTSB preliminary reports out loud while following the text with his mouse pointer.
 
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