IH Scout fans: What do you think of the new one?

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Not enough info yet to make any meaningful conclusion, except that it looks nice.
Rivian R1S is the benchmark, so we'll see how they compare.
 
Just like the new Bronco, Land Cruiser, and Land Rover, it's gone upscale... and expensive. Not that they're not nice trucks, but give me the simplicity of the originals. Jeep seems to be better at staying true to the originals than the other makers, which is why I bought a base model Gladiator.
 
Dana said:
Just like the new Bronco, Land Cruiser, and Land Rover, it's gone upscale...
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Unfortunately, that is all that is selling. I would love to have a new IH pickup with real 4WD, as simple as 1970, but I am afraid those would not sell, because the youngsters of today would not know how to roll down the window or open the door from the inside...

Anyone remember how to switch the fuel tanks from the left one to the right one on an old IH pickup.??
 
You've touched my heart bringing flying and IH's together! I'm a big IH fan. I have a 1971 Travelall that has a transplanted IH 446 gas motor and a 5 speed in it that I drive around/camp in.

I also have a 1973 Scout 2 with a midly built 392 that is almost done with a frame off restoration (should have it back by Christmas).

I eagerly ordered the new Traveler SUV with the Harvester option. I would have bought it anyway without the range extender, but that completely put me over the edge.

I think they got a LOT right with this to make it the best all around rig you could jump in and do anything with (just like my Scout 2)

- Real offroad, lockers, solid axle, body on frame (galvanized???), great clearance angles, 35's fit stock.
- Great interior that will be a pleasure to GET TO the trail or just use as my daily (this one will become my daily and my old ones will be Sunday drivers)
- Great styling cues. While I would have done a couple of things differently, I think they generally did a great job. love that I can sit on the back tailgate or in the frunk (a platform slides out to plop down on when you're out and about)
- 120V outlets and a little cooler in the center console mean this thing really risks displacing the travelall for camping. It's just going to be so convenient to always have cold water and to be able to charge everyones GPS/flashlights/etc at camp. I hope it has a "camp mode" too for sleeping in it. I think it will be long enough for even a tall guy (I'm 6'3") to sleep behind the front row of seats. My scout 2 is about 5'5" so I camp in the Travelall (which is about 9' behind the front row).
- Amazing range! 350 on the battery only model and 500 on the range extender version. I speculate that the range extender will have something like 150 mile battery and the rest on the extender. this would be IDEAL as I could run around on the battery 90% of the time, charging cheaply at home, but always have the ability to just jump in the car and drive as far as I want without worrying about charging on the road due to the gas generator in it.

Saves me some appliances.

It's going to be able to run loads around the house and also have to vehicle to grid or vehicle to load capabilities that would let me eliminate needing a generator for power outages since the scout should be able to power the house and just run it's generator periodically to keep it's battery in a good place. I'll wire the house up to work this way and probably just have a small permanent battery at the house in case I'm away when the power goes.
 
Zeldman said:
Unfortunately, that is all that is selling. I would love to have a new IH pickup with real 4WD, as simple as 1970, but I am afraid those would not sell, because the youngsters of today would not know how to roll down the window or open the door from the inside...

Anyone remember how to switch the fuel tanks from the left one to the right one on an old IH pickup.??
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PS, yes. My travelall has 4 tanks, totalling 70 gallons! It's far more complex than the Bonanza!
 
My grandpa had a couple of ‘51 International pickups on the farm that he put 4-cylinder diesels into…I’d love to have one of those. I’m getting kind of tired of disposable cars. :(
 
Maybe with a diesel never EV
 
MountainDude said:
Rivian R1S is the benchmark, so we'll see how they compare.
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Interestingly, Scout is a wholly owned subsidiary of VW. VW recently made a $5billion investment into Rivian with the intent on sharing technology .
frfly172 said:
Maybe with a diesel never EV
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They're talking about adding a range extender so it'll maybe be both.
 
Yeah, I'm a little bit interested. Agree with other complex about getting a bit too upscale, but this prototype looks like maybe a nice compromise...if the target price holds
I've got to admit that I want a certain level of comfort and features these days...
AC
adaptive cruise control or better
etc...

When I was a teen in the 80's I had a 1966 Bronco. It was a worn-out dog. Part of me would love to own a nicer example of a 1960's vintage Bronco...or a similar Jeep or Scout...but then those things are more likely to leave you on the side of the road. Yeah sure, I can actually fix most issues they'd have, but still....
 
Give me a 4 speed, manual hubs, 354 V8 will go anywhere. Might be nice to have AC but can live without it. Those old IH trucks were off road torque monsters. Owned a 1 ton International for a while simple, basic, worked. Those days are unfortunately gone forever.
 
fast99 said:
Give me a 4 speed, manual hubs, 354 345 V8 will go anywhere.
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FIFY And that 345 was as tough as nails.!!

I worked for a company that had a Scout II, the little one with a 4 cyl, 4 speed, 4WD with added on 10/31 wheels and tires. Man, that thing would go anywhere.!!
 
I admit I'm more interested in it than I've been in other EVs. Although it really does lack the rugged simplicity that for me was a lot of the charm of the original. It also lacks a removable top

The styling isn't bad, I also like the gas generator/range extender which makes it a much more viable option. That said, I probably won't be rushing out to buy one. Maybe down the line when I need to replace our family daily.
 
Zeldman said:
Well, that does it for me. I'll never buy a new scout then.
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Here's where it gets interesting. Although it's wholly owned by VW, the branding was acquired through Navistar. They're getting a new HQ in Virginia, a new R&D facility in Michigan and a new factory in South Carolina. Scout will also act as an independent company managed separately from VW and even have its own executive team. And given VW's investment in Rivian, it could even get some of Rivian's technology.
 
Jim K said:
I can hear it rusting through the screen.

Oh wait, sorry, that's just the original one my buddy has. He's only 7 miles away, and it's a clear night, so the sound carries.
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We had a 1976 Scout pickup when I was a teenager. The power to weight ratio got better every year due to expanding rust. We had a roll bar and front bumper welded out of oilfield tubing and painted those parts white, the rest gray. It would go anywhere. One time, we were out hunting and idling through the snow. We decided to get out to walk a bit and had to push hard because the snow was a few inches up the doors. We were always ambivalent about having sold it before the new oil boom led to lots of road rage, as it would have been nice but dangerous to have a car we didn’t care about trading paint while pushing idiots off the road.

The new one won’t live up to any of those standards. It’s a weird name to slap on a Volkswagen EV. But maybe it will be fun and turn into a second classic with the same name.
 
asicer said:
Here's where it gets interesting. Although it's wholly owned by VW, the branding was acquired through Navistar. They're getting a new HQ in Virginia, a new R&D facility in Michigan and a new factory in South Carolina. Scout will also act as an independent company managed separately from VW and even have its own executive team. And given VW's investment in Rivian, it could even get some of Rivian's technology.
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Translation: they'll be belly up in a year.

We had a '59 IH step van converted to a camper when I was a kid. BD240 straight six and 4 speed. Valve adjustment was done with the engine running.
I learned to drive in a '71 Travelall with 232 straight six and the same 4 speed.
My dad's baby was a '74 a Travelall with 392 V8, 4x4 and automatic (gasp).
My first car was a '64 Scout with 152 four cylinder (half a 304 V8) and three speed. Vacuum wipers, which almost came to a dead stop when you floored it and went fastest when you let off.

I'm not fascinated with this new thing
 
My good friend bought a Rivian RS1. It's HUGE. He has a wife and two kids--one graduated from college and the other a junior or senior--one step away from empty nesters. It's 0-60 2.6 second acceleration is scary. I hate riding in it. It makes him a worse driver. He loves quoting the stat and punching it.

I asked, "Why do you need 0-60 in 2.6?"
He said, "It'll tow eight thousand pounds!"
"How much does your boat and trailer weigh?"
Cricket, cricket, cricket ...

At one time, I had a 1964 Landrover 88 with a 4-cylinder diesel to gas conversion. It would go anywhere--except we got stuck fording the glacier-melt Snoqualmie River. Water was on the floorboards. We managed to get it off the rock the front differential had high centered on by cutting a tree to use as a lever. But it couldn't get enough traction in the head-sized boulders on the bottom.

An IH Scout, who had already crossed ahead of us, winched us out of there. Shameful. Totally humiliating. I blame myself not the rig.
 
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iamtheari said:
The new one won’t live up to any of those standards. It’s a weird name to slap on a Volkswagen EV.
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I agree.

asicer said:
Here's where it gets interesting. Although it's wholly owned by VW, the branding was acquired through Navistar. They're getting a new HQ in Virginia, a new R&D facility in Michigan and a new factory in South Carolina. Scout will also act as an independent company managed separately from VW and even have its own executive team. And given VW's investment in Rivian, it could even get some of Rivian's technology.
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Interesting, yes. Still, from a business point of view I understand why all the diversification, but I won't be waiting for a chance to buy one.

Then again, all auto manufacturers are going the same way. I figure soon we will be discussing the new Thundercougarfalconbird....
 
How’d they fit electric motors to Dana 44s and manual locking hubs?
 
iamtheari said:
That's nothing. Ten years ago, Harley-Davidson managed to invent an electric motor that leaks oil.
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Duh. That’s a feature the engineer into everything.
 
Absolutely beautiful. I love the reincarnation of the Bronco, Jeep Gladiator, and now the Scout.

The classic stuff with a modern theme is where it's at for me.
 
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