Word to the wise - a warm body with a certificate days are over - for now.

What airline even cares about your CFI time? They look at hours, type, PIC, Turbine... Delta/AA/etc doesn't want to know how you handle a student during a crosswind.

STAR format interview, go over hours, and other qualifications.

As for hardware, once they start thinking about bringing ships back from the desert THEN you know things are getting bad. If I even think I hear a rumor the 200 is coming back I'm gonna be P.O.d
 
That first type rating is no joke, get ready to drink from the firehouse. It is doable with some good study habits, and they'll get you thru it. Enjoy!
 
SixPapaCharlie said:
I guess I knew them pretty well.

Class Date will be in Q1 2025. There were a few of us in the interview and all got hired.
Next class is Nov 18th but they are prioritizing cadets over street hires. So I am at the end of the line. but I am in line.

The folks I spoke to said they anticipate "hiring like crazy early next year due to new aircraft purchases".
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Congrats!!
 
ja_user said:
That first type rating is no joke, get ready to drink from the firehouse. It is doable with some good study habits, and they'll get you thru it. Enjoy!
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I am anticipating the most challenging learning experience of my life.
 
Bill said:
Congratulations, and I have to say I might be more than a little bit jealous. I would have loved to be an airline pilot, but as a young lad my parents were hard core against that career path even though I was smitten with everything airplanes. *shrug* Engineering was just fine, but I sometimes still wonder…

Congrats again, you obviously worked hard and found a way to make it happen and for that you should be proud!

Keep us informed you dirty rat.
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I will. And Thank you.
 
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will be 49 next Feb
still working on getting my multi.
Hopefully the weather plays nice this Fri for my checkride.

Am I good for the regionals when I hit 1500 in the next 3-5 months or am I just wishful thinking?
 
darthanubis said:
Warm bodies fly more than 172s as you know. Some of them even fly IFR quite regularly. I don’t get the desire to devalue any pilot. Which is it, is it good to fly a simple tailwheel, pulling a banner for good stick and rudder skills, or flying a Cherokee retract around for fun? One is simple one is complex. The survey guys flying c172s at 500ft. All the CFI and II, trash because they were flying C172s? No one here started in a 172? Everyone’s dads weren’t a pilot which allowed them to start flying at 6 years old. This sentiment found here reeks of elitism and gatekeeping. Talk of “puppy mills” and such. Where are the new pilots supposed to come from? What are they allowed to fly that’s sufficient to satisfy the old guard? Will the FAA be informed? /rant off
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Seems to me that all of those categories of flying provide experience in making sound enough go/no-go decisions to make it to 1500 hours in one piece.
 
ahmad said:
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will be 49 next Feb
still working on getting my multi.
Hopefully the weather plays nice this Fri for my checkride.

Am I good for the regionals when I hit 1500 in the next 3-5 months or am I just wishful thinking?
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pretty sure its wishful thinking. . i know people who have 200+ hours and 500 hours of TPIC, college degree (although not relevant for regionals), no failures who arent getting callbacks at all.
 
ahmad said:
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will be 49 next Feb
still working on getting my multi.
Hopefully the weather plays nice this Fri for my checkride.

Am I good for the regionals when I hit 1500 in the next 3-5 months or am I just wishful thinking?
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Other than building hours, what are you doing to build a network that can help you? Whether it’s job fairs, a mentor, friends of friends, prep services, whatever…that can he a deciding factor when it comes to getting the interview.

I’ve shared this story recently. Good friend with 4K hours as a B-52 IP, multiple civilian PIC type ratings, tons of international flying experience could get an interview at a major over the last three years.

Built a network, polished the resume, and got interviewed and hired at Delta earlier this year.
 
I think the network is key right now.
I have a mentor that has been helping me get multi time and he is a captain at a regional.
When I asked what are the odds of getting an interview, he said send me your resume.
They called me the following day.

Prior to that, I blasted it out and put it on airline apps website and just got decline responses.
That said, I had 1350 hours when I did that. Also I wasn't the only one being interviewed that day so some people are getting through.

Lastly, they believe hiring is going to pick up significantly next year which I think means it might be easier to get in front of them.
I am talking out of school a little since I only have half a toe in the door. I really don't know how it all works. Just my experience so far.

I don't know how to help someone build a network. Strangely I live in a neighborhood with a lot of pilots and several have become friends and written reference letters.
Once I am on the inside I hope to pay it forward and be a network point for the next guy.
 
Dave Theisen said:
In used to be that if you wanted to get a sense of what an airlines culture was you’d ask what the military/civilian ratio was, now it’s “what’s your percentage of former IT guys?” :)
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Hey, don’t mock it. You may need someone to show you how to use that fancy gadgetry in your panel in your old age
 
congrats again!
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I think the network is key right now.
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This feels the same as our... well my world, now. Every company I've ever worked for has a portal to submit resumes for referrals. The idea is, current employees know what it takes and whether their referrals would be good employees.

Dave Theisen said:
Great, you, @eman1200 ,@kaiser, and @N4984R all flying for the same company. I’m never talking that airline. :)
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That's going to be the best airline everrrrrrrr. 6PC will be a captain by then. can you imagine 2 PoAers up front? :rockon:

Dave Theisen said:
I may need you at 8X school next week. :)
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*cough* why hello there!
 
SixPapaCharlie said:
Envoy
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Cause we got a little ol' Envoy
Rockin' through the night
Yeah, we got a little ol' Envoy
Ain't she a beautiful sight?
Come on and join our Envoy
Ain't nothin' gonna get in our way
We gonna roll this truckin' Envoy
'Cross the USA

Envoy!
 
SixPapaCharlie said:
I am anticipating the most challenging learning experience of my life.
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It won't be that bad. It's not rocket science - just a lot of information. Be a sponge and find a fun group to study every day with and you'll be fine. Callouts and flows. Callouts and flows!

Have fun! Let us know how it goes. Being based where you live is a great start. :)
 
Don’t worry about doom and gloom. Learn the material, get the hours, be ready when the flood gates open. Don’t give up. Do the best you can, and have fun while doing it. You will miss those CFI days trust me. Get that PIC turbine time and meet me in DAL for a Wild Turkey!


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texasclouds said:
Don’t worry about doom and gloom. Learn the material, get the hours, be ready when the flood gates open. Don’t give up. Do the best you can, and have fun while doing it. You will miss those CFI days trust me. Get that PIC turbine time and meet me in DAL for a Wild Turkey!


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I’m at 1392.8 TT as of today. Aiming for 1,500 ATP mins before thanksgiving!!


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ahmad said:
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will be 49 next Feb
still working on getting my multi.
Hopefully the weather plays nice this Fri for my checkride.

Am I good for the regionals when I hit 1500 in the next 3-5 months or am I just wishful thinking?
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Lots of XC, good, lots of PIC, good, decent percentage of instrument time, good...

Very little multi, not good. And not a whole lot of night either. I think you'll need 25 multi to get in anywhere, 50+ is better, and it wouldn't hurt to get some more night time.
 
flyingcheesehead said:
Lots of XC, good, lots of PIC, good, decent percentage of instrument time, good...

Very little multi, not good. And not a whole lot of night either. I think you'll need 25 multi to get in anywhere, 50+ is better, and it wouldn't hurt to get some more night time.
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Definitely working on the multi time. Hoping to get the checkride done this week then start flying with another pilot to build multi time. Also trying to fly more night time. I fly a lot of IFR but can't log much instrument time when the weather is good all the time(can't complain too much about that..ha).

As for the networking I'm definitely lacking. I work my day job then flying the M350 commercially under part 91. Unfortunately, I don't have any connections anywhere other than just the local group of pilots. I will start attending aviation events and work on that.
 
The average new hire at my joint is around 7000 hour. Just hired a bunch of 10+ year ULCC captains. Big change from a year ago.
 
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